Smythe D. Wonder

The first match looked awful but the ending looked much better... Twitch was being chippy... or you would have seen exactly why that was a stupid booking... this one actually looked ok compared to the actual match... But hey, I tried to make it work... this is what happens

Jay??? have you seen that guy in a match??? he can't rewrite FPR... FPR was basically put together to keep that guy from getting into the ring... Tank vs Jay would be an epic clash of lack of knowledge of FPR!!!

I listened... it was good... way too long... but good!!!

I think FPR police seriously need to go over the rules with you guys over there... It doesn't matter how long you wait... You cannot pick someone up and hit a finisher on them... Unless you use a wake up taunt... That rule is plain as day

Exactly you can attack... But Tank was reversing the stomp and Dennis Black was drop kicking him right away... that's no good!!!

Dennis wasn't bad... But he defended the match so he got thrown in the pot... But when Tank used a reversal out of the ground strike he got hover dropkicked twice... That wasn't right...

I didn't listen to the podcast because it was in bad taste... I knew it was from when I read that it was just about that one match... And everyone has said that it didn't need to happen... The current issue I have is that you guys are making excuses for blatant disregard of how things are done in OCW... When you signed up we asked if you understood FPR and you both said yes... A match like this shouldn't happen if you have even a basic grasp of FPR... So even if you're rushed to do a match, if you have any idea of how matches should look you should know that this isn't how they are done. So the question becomes do you guys not think that FPR is important??? Is using the right variation of "there" and "you're" more important to you than FPR??? This isn't merely a mistake... This is disregard... And yes the titles should have been placed on veterans because you guys don't follow the rules of the ring on TV... Running an RP fed is fine and dandy... But here we RP to sell these matches... So even if your spelling is top notch if you wrestle like that your supposed to be curtain jerker status forever... So while you believe that there has been worse matches I will go on record and say that was the worst OCW match ever aired... You guys need to learn about where you are, the history of this place and you need to get comfortable on the sticks... I personally don't want to see that mess again!!!

I just actually watched the match... Tank Your attire is fine... They told me my attire sucked for years... your move set should be better... but you said you changed it for the match... Your blatant disregard for FPR is why you can't be champion... you don't understand what hovering is... and you hit 3 finishers before you were allowed to and the only reason I can see you doing it was because you were getting your ass kicked... Dennis... you weren't much better... that dropkick after the ground strike reversal isn't right... but I'll just take it as you don't know any better... Back to the Drawing board for Turmoil I guess...

Welp ... I'm going to use an I told you so moment here to explain why you don't put a major title on a rook again... What we have here is a rook who won a major title (Kass) and was punished for apparently dropping the ball (I don't consider missing I week dropping the ball but whatever) so he's punished by a multiman rook title match (which is a major booking no-no) and it results in a champion who isn't solid enough on the sticks to have a good looking important match (playing this game properly trumps winning matches, I can't say this enough to you guys) There are vets on Turmoil and one of them should have been champion... Mainly because it sets a standard of how to conduct yourself in the ring and how you earn a shot at the title... What are you going to do now... Another multi-man title match because I'd rather have Kass not Rp at all then have a guy botch a prime time show??? I'm going to start a new segment called "Listen to the legend" where I advise people on how to avoid train wrecks like this!!!

It's funny how they're more over than the League of Nations tho!!!

I know... It's like you earned it... but you didn't!!! Ideally your first defence should be a 1 v 1 with Kass... But he's gone to Riot where he's middle of the pack for reasons unknown!!! It leaves a huge cloud over who the King of Turmoil rightfully is... which is a good thing I guess

If someone legit beat him for the title then that person can talk... but since he lost it in a 3-way we'll never know... Kass consistently whooped on that whole roster in winning that title... Nowone has been dominant since I don't think... But like you said Turmoil is new someone will break out on the sticks. When the show first started I suggested putting the title on a Veteran that went over to PS4... Then Turmoil could have been about one of the rooks earning the right to dethrone him. Which would have been a great base... Turmoil is doing fantastic now (As I've said many times, This is OCW's best year ever) but with a solid base the show could have had less growing pains.

Kassidy Hayes is your best player... That was already proven!!! Turmoil suffers from RP Diherea right now... we don't need 3 long segments from one person... just like TV goes you get one segment per show at the most 2 if you're developing a major story... Right now I'm reading 2 rps and a video on the same story line and it gets to be too much... Then the matches are scripted and guys are fighting computers and recording the shit and we start to teeter on this being a Role Play Fed which it isn't at all... This is an E-Fed and there are other E-Feds out there... so when we say Dennis Black is our Champion what it means is that if someone from another Fed comes here and plays by our rules this is our top flight guy!!!! I currently feel like Turmoil doesn't understand or doesn't respect what that's about... Which is why we don't do 3 way title matches... But maybe Tank proves himself on the sticks and becomes a great champion!!! That turned into a Rant... All I really wanted to say was the only point of RPing is to make me want to watch your matches... and i think you guys are losing that in the fantasy aspect of OCW... When we feud we pick a guy we want to fight and we spend the next few weeks building that match... then when the match happens it's better to watch!!!

I'm with Parker... reversing is pretty basic this year... so the Sig and the finisher both being easily reversed is enough fair play.... The only thing we really have to talk about or look into is the multiple high impact moves on a knock down... I see people doing a ground grapple then picking up and attacking again which isn't right... Or multiple springboard attacks... mostly because they're harder to reverse... looks sketchy... But that is what separates the mid-card from the Main event... the look of matches I won't speak about the finisher kick outs... we all know how I feel about those

Sounds like some people are salty about losing a tag match to me!!! Same people that were salty about losing to Trancey!!! Looks like a pattern to me!!!

The Turmoil champions match should be higher on the card!!!

Seriously tho I'm just messing with you... Congrats Buffness!!! Keep up the good work... and don't lose to Tobin... nowone likes Tobin!!!

Drago's lucky real life got in the way... but at least he would have had a chance to retain if I could make the match... we both know you'd job that title like you've done all season... you actually should thank Parker for gifting you the title by storyline stealing it from Pugh... Infact I'm going to thank Parker on behalf of all black wrestlers for making Buffness Matter #BuffnessMatters

We can book you and Xander Rane next week and you will no longer be champion... we all know this!!! we won't even mention some of the top guys on the sticks... You're a champion with so much to prove it will actually be entertaining!!!

I know Tre won the title... but it was good for Xander to drop it...he's proven that he's ready to move upto midcard status... It wasn't backhanded... you need to win more!!! as the new breed say... get gud!!!

Off the top of my head... this will go down as the Thirsty PPV!!! Congrats to Mcgee tho... he'll look good as champion if he can string a few good wins together... Cause we currently know that he isn't the strongest on the sticks... he has losses Pugh, Suda, Mugen, Drago and Xander Rane from what I remember... and almost all of those peopple have legit claims to the OCW championship right now... Sucks that Carter lost and the EX title goes back into the abyss... of course Suda is becoming a star of his own... but it would have been better for business if he were to drop the title as he won't have time to OCW with us anymore... Congrats to Tank on winning the Turmoil title... even if it's a result of terrible booking... Kass didn't deserve that even tho he didn't have a good month as champion... which makes this obviously prove my point that the Turmoil title should have been placed around the waist of a veteran that knows how to be a champion... Young Tank is a workhorse and I hope he will do his best!!! make us proud The Hardcore title was a good look as Xander has proven he is ready to take the next step... on to the midcard for him... great look for him... We definitely need more info on the women of OCW and also more inclusion and seriousness in their booking if they're going to be around weekly... The return of Tobin and Betterness is very refreshing and solidifies the ME scene of OCW going forward... I think it took too long personally but we finally have all the major players back... This PPV wasn't great but it's another great chapter in OCW's best year ever!!! we just need the over the top awesome angle and I think it's developing!!!

The Ex division title is still a joke belt given to the dregs to keep them from titles that matter... what's changed???

Before I get to anything... I dropped the ball this week and I'm sorry guys... The father in law to be had a stroke to its been a tough time on family and we all know that comes first... Work also kicked me in the ass the one day we could get it in so again it was on me... Huge thank you to Leon and Drago who came up with something quick in my absence... But at least Ron Portman is gone and we got Leon back in the ring which was great... I'll be back kicking Kass's ass at 424 so don't worry... My schedule will be a bit hectic with Work and hospital visits for the next month or so tho... So bear with me!!!

He's why your gimmick can never be over with the vets... He was the best OCW personality ever... No questions asked... Parker is right he may be the GOAT...

for some reason I want to see you return to the ring and get your ass kicked again... might be because I'm evil... I don't know!!!