Parker Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Lol aside from that! Is there a legitimate reason or ppl just bellyaching? Cactus you mentioned it as well in the cast. Just wondering what it is Personally i LOVE the hardcore division, but that's because I'm an old school ECW mark...HOWEVER.... In OCW terms...it can open the gates to a world of cheesey fighting imo, it all depends on the champion, alot of the time the title gets passed around, which kind of devalues it, but personally I think that's what it's supposed to do, then when ever you get a legit champ that gets maybe 4-5 succeSsful defenses then people start to take a little notice, it's good for elevating that specific person, as once you get the first 2-3 cheesers out of the way, you start fighting better caliber opponents. If you look back at the reigns of myself, Pugh, Gibbs, even Tre..the first few opponents were horrible, and once you get used to integrating weapons into your match in a non cheesey way, the matches can look really good, but usually the thirst takes over and poeple go 'LOL WEAPONZ MAX DAMAGE RAAAWR'...AND IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT. It's a LOT easier to lose a Hardcore match than it is a normal match, due to the weapons etc, people don't like losing..it's that simple. 8 http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5774/sig2uq.jpg 2 x Hardcore Champion (Longest defending OCW champ,19 defences) 1 x NA Champion 1 x Pride Champion 1 x TV Champion 2 x OCW World Heavyweight Champion F.I Winner 2012 MOTN vs Leonheart @ Wrestlution 7 'Don't worry about no one else, hows my hair look' - Tiberius Dupree 'Wipe you ass and go to bed' - Sensation to B17
Bloom Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 &@Personally i LOVE the hardcore division, but that's because I'm an old school ECW mark...HOWEVER.... In OCW terms...it can open the gates to a world of cheesey fighting imo, it all depends on the champion, alot of the time the title gets passed around, which kind of devalues it, but personally I think that's what it's supposed to do, then when ever you get a legit champ that gets maybe 4-5 succeSsful defenses then people start to take a little notice, it's good for elevating that specific person, as once you get the first 2-3 cheesers out of the way, you start fighting better caliber opponents. If you look back at the reigns of myself, Pugh, Gibbs, even Tre..the first few opponents were horrible, and once you get used to integrating weapons into your match in a non cheesey way, the matches can look really good, but usually the thirst takes over and poeple go 'LOL WEAPONZ MAX DAMAGE RAAAWR'...AND IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT. It's a LOT easier to lose a Hardcore match than it is a normal match, due to the weapons etc, people don't like losing..it's that simple.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-dZGsd2rAY 1 Welcome to OCW, keep tough skin, speak your mind, and most of all have fun.-Betterness "I'm going to be brutally honest here guys... all we really need for a good Riot is a few RP's from Our Hero himself... he's an awesome writer!!!" - Smythe CCWJustinTime: just funny how the shit i do goes un appreciative [10-01, 00:19] Jookie Marley: fuck u nigga [09-01, 23:50] Mr.Bentley: uploadafraud.com [09-01, 23:45] Jookie Marley: what website do we use 2 upload now? "Summercide was 2 white girls away from being a cook out" - Cyberbully 2099 " makes me laugh how its gone from all ambition era holding the titles, to 3 guys from 07 holding the main titles..haha welcome to the 'Pensioner Era' - Parker "This is all part of my plan to equalize the playing field until we have a roster of people I can actually BEAT" - Bobby Digital
Jimmy Henry Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I don't mind the Hardcore Championship, but it always feels a bit more impermanent - probably because I grew up watching the hardcore championship in the Attitude era, so I'm probably projecting. I agree with the "champ makes the title" sentiment, and personally I think Ding has been a good hardcore champion. My only gripe with the hardcore championship on Turmoil is that it has totally changed the lower-mid card dynamic. I have had 5 matches on Turmoil with my alt this season, and every one of them has been some form of hardcore match. I can slightly understand the desire to move the TV title to Riot, in the hope that someone on the Xbox side will be able to defeat Dennis - but it's been at the expense of Turmoil's midcard. The titles-per-show ratio is very disproportionate. EDIT: Should say - Good show Cactus, the quality of your content is a credit to the PS4 side and the majority of us would hate to see you leave.
Bloom Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) When it comes to drawing them out, you can pretty much make it last as long as you want. Shit go to the GM and ask if they can help facilitate. Like hey we want to drag this out to a 2nd ppv you got any ideas. Most times Riot guys will do that but its more over when they try to do the match and the game shits on them for 17 matches. I Agree on Rev-Inc, that was biggest concern with Faction Warz. But I'm sure something more bad gonna happen like soon. Edited February 21, 2017 by Bloom Welcome to OCW, keep tough skin, speak your mind, and most of all have fun.-Betterness "I'm going to be brutally honest here guys... all we really need for a good Riot is a few RP's from Our Hero himself... he's an awesome writer!!!" - Smythe CCWJustinTime: just funny how the shit i do goes un appreciative [10-01, 00:19] Jookie Marley: fuck u nigga [09-01, 23:50] Mr.Bentley: uploadafraud.com [09-01, 23:45] Jookie Marley: what website do we use 2 upload now? "Summercide was 2 white girls away from being a cook out" - Cyberbully 2099 " makes me laugh how its gone from all ambition era holding the titles, to 3 guys from 07 holding the main titles..haha welcome to the 'Pensioner Era' - Parker "This is all part of my plan to equalize the playing field until we have a roster of people I can actually BEAT" - Bobby Digital
Bloom Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Also not sure why PS4 guys are up Dings asshole. The Swap was done ages ago and it was explained. I got guys like Jett coming last week as if its new information. But again to clarify we swapped them in an effort to loosen the stranglehold Dennis has on PS4 (Its not a bad thing). And also to offer up some diversity and build up new stars. In addition its sort of a soft swap in regards that we still had a PS4 guy fight a Ps4 Champ like we had a xb1 guy fight an Xb1 guy. It's all about the opportunity. And it's really odd that Ding has been busting his asshole putting his Timberlands to asses putting in work, defending. And pretty much Unironically being a good hand and pretty much a main eventer on merit alone. As a Whatever my title is its good to say ok we need a match, no no no no no oh shit Ding, YES!! It's invaluable. And that's not to say other people aren't worthy but with consistent good matches and performance, it tends to stand out from the flock. We have had 1 Turmoil TV Champion. We have had Numerous Hardcore Champions, Lineage wise when you look back you have some shit shows but you also have Greats, like Majin, Parker, Matsuda, Hell Even Tre,Tre for a hot second while not great def good!, Richard Blood etc. Theres a linage and a history behind it. If you guys have a stigma from Hardcore there is really not much I can do. I mean can go this wierd NJPW and have it NEVEROPENHARDCORE WEIGHT belt, where Weapons are optional. Because I get the issue with more frequent HC matches might feel contrived. You also have to look at it from the perspective of an owner/operator you want variety. I try not to keep you guys split. But it feels like you guys want a definitive split between the consoles. Like in my head the only belts that are really exclusive are the WHC and TM. the others can coast from show to show but its up to who the handler is and the console, id rather not have a belt hostage situation but w/e. It's just odd there always seems to be some kind of odd little issue. /shrug! 1 Welcome to OCW, keep tough skin, speak your mind, and most of all have fun.-Betterness "I'm going to be brutally honest here guys... all we really need for a good Riot is a few RP's from Our Hero himself... he's an awesome writer!!!" - Smythe CCWJustinTime: just funny how the shit i do goes un appreciative [10-01, 00:19] Jookie Marley: fuck u nigga [09-01, 23:50] Mr.Bentley: uploadafraud.com [09-01, 23:45] Jookie Marley: what website do we use 2 upload now? "Summercide was 2 white girls away from being a cook out" - Cyberbully 2099 " makes me laugh how its gone from all ambition era holding the titles, to 3 guys from 07 holding the main titles..haha welcome to the 'Pensioner Era' - Parker "This is all part of my plan to equalize the playing field until we have a roster of people I can actually BEAT" - Bobby Digital
Cactus Gauge Posted February 21, 2017 Author Posted February 21, 2017 won't bother trying to help again. lol lesson learned Loosen your undies, it was a joke underdawg. Want to be on the Watering Hole? Message Me. http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award2k16/bestnewsegment2016.png B17 - "Jordan Jax has Stone Cold moves. Rock taunts and Cena jorts. He's the wrestling equivalent of a hipster."
Cactus Gauge Posted February 21, 2017 Author Posted February 21, 2017 The player / character make the title important, not the other way around. I think that's a mind set that is lost on newer people, and even some veterans. Pugh says the Lightweight title is the world championship for smaller guys, and that is exactly why he is the right person to be the Champion for that division. The TV title ended up being what it is now because from day one, that's all that mattered to DB and Madison. It's all that mattered to me. They felt their belt was more important than every other title, and held it to a higher standard at the risk of getting some eye rolls. It went from being a 'story title' to a title that people have played me legit to take it away. The record for most defenses in ocw history came from the Hardcore title, during Parker's reign i believe. Something i'm currently trying to surpass. When Majin and Parker were HC Champions, the title mattered. The champions that came after caused it to mean less and less over the years. Majin gave me a bit of advice when i was feeling meh about how people shat on the TV title. "A title reign is what you make of it." I said the same to Ding's handler, and they are making the most of it. The HC title match was one of the better matches of the Devil's Night ppv. Keep in mind, the current Hardcore Champion is main eventing Riot 'and' Turmoil right now and is on the fast track to being a ocw star. Regardless of what anyone writes or says to me on Discord, The Turmoil Title is on equal footing with the OCW title for as long as I have it, because of DB. Just as the TV is on equal standing with the NA for as long as DB has it. It is on the Champions after Dennis Black to keep it that way. The character makes the title matter, not the other way around. This I 100% agree. Want to be on the Watering Hole? Message Me. http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award2k16/bestnewsegment2016.png B17 - "Jordan Jax has Stone Cold moves. Rock taunts and Cena jorts. He's the wrestling equivalent of a hipster."
Cactus Gauge Posted February 21, 2017 Author Posted February 21, 2017 This whole HC thing has blown up! I will say Ding deserves it. Ding is the man. I've got zero issues with Ding, the belt, its history or any of that. I personally just don't enjoy the matches. I'll do them, I'll force myself to enjoy it, but off hand, I don't go offline and start playing HC matches. That was the only point I was making in the show. Want to be on the Watering Hole? Message Me. http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award2k16/bestnewsegment2016.png B17 - "Jordan Jax has Stone Cold moves. Rock taunts and Cena jorts. He's the wrestling equivalent of a hipster."
Bloom Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 This whole HC thing has blown up! I will say Ding deserves it. Ding is the man. I've got zero issues with Ding, the belt, its history or any of that. I personally just don't enjoy the matches. I'll do them, I'll force myself to enjoy it, but off hand, I don't go offline and start playing HC matches. That was the only point I was making in the show. Don't worry hammer your entitled to your opinion. The thing was that your not the only one, so I figured tried to get to the Root of the issue. Trying to hold Ding Down Daddeh! Welcome to OCW, keep tough skin, speak your mind, and most of all have fun.-Betterness "I'm going to be brutally honest here guys... all we really need for a good Riot is a few RP's from Our Hero himself... he's an awesome writer!!!" - Smythe CCWJustinTime: just funny how the shit i do goes un appreciative [10-01, 00:19] Jookie Marley: fuck u nigga [09-01, 23:50] Mr.Bentley: uploadafraud.com [09-01, 23:45] Jookie Marley: what website do we use 2 upload now? "Summercide was 2 white girls away from being a cook out" - Cyberbully 2099 " makes me laugh how its gone from all ambition era holding the titles, to 3 guys from 07 holding the main titles..haha welcome to the 'Pensioner Era' - Parker "This is all part of my plan to equalize the playing field until we have a roster of people I can actually BEAT" - Bobby Digital
Cactus Gauge Posted February 21, 2017 Author Posted February 21, 2017 I am still looking forward to the day that Ding holds all 3 belts. Want to be on the Watering Hole? Message Me. http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award2k16/bestnewsegment2016.png B17 - "Jordan Jax has Stone Cold moves. Rock taunts and Cena jorts. He's the wrestling equivalent of a hipster."
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