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More grey area, I consider breaking out of a submission to be a neutral position, neither person has advantage after that point, and Tibby was capable of reversing that move, which is the point of giving a reset. I do see how someone can consider that a hover though, like I said grey area, if they were both alright with it whatever.

 

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I probably would have been less ok with it if Tibby was the one following up with a move, not Baker

 

Can we discuss the referees FPR break please? Refused to count the 3, I want him sent to developmenturmoil immediately.

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Can we discuss the referees FPR break please? Refused to count the 3, I want him sent to developmenturmoil immediately.

 

Yah know?! Not a single mention of that. There is a secret agenda out to push young talent!

 

And I didn't realized he hovered as with what Trash said, usually after a sub it's anyone's ball game IMO.

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Yah know?! Not a single mention of that. There is a secret agenda out to push young talent!

 

And I didn't realized he hovered as with what Trash said, usually after a sub it's anyone's ball game IMO.

 

Artificially elevating people over us is the new country way. "What can I get away with" is the new norm.

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Artificially elevating people over us is the new country way. "What can I get away with" is the new norm.

First Asian ref and now this. Inconceivable

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I always saw breaking out of a sub like a reversal. So if it is a break than my apologies. If not. Then thank you Ref for forgetting how to count.

 

He didn't forget. Jay paid him not to

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I always saw breaking out of a sub like a reversal. So if it is a break than my apologies. If not. Then thank you Ref for forgetting how to count.

I always think of it like a pin. Any other move you do you either have the advantage or reset. Never thought it was right that you get punished for using a sub because 9 of 10 your not trying to win with it.

 

If we are taking out dirty refs I’m in.

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I always think of it like a pin. Any other move you do you either have the advantage or reset. Never thought it was right that you get punished for using a sub because 9 of 10 your not trying to win with it.

 

If we are taking out dirty refs I’m in.

 

If you end up in the ground it should be considered a pin attempt imo. If you're on your feet, then it should be a reset. Either way, reset

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