OCW RIOT - May 8th, 2008

[Adrian Bold]

You see Bold this is why you are not ME. Many people think that ME is about how many titles you can win or how much someone owns at the game but no it isn't. Being a ME consists of many things to name a few is too put on good matches, help people out and too help put them over and also work your ass off.

 

-Putting over Cross

-Putting over Death Row

-Putting over Mania

-Recording for people

-Making Attires for multiple people

-Making intros and promo vids for people

-RPs every week and in the shoutbox

-Winning record

 

 

 

Please don't tell me about working my ass off.

 

 

It's no secret whos alt is who btw everybody knows. Val Finale couldn't of done it any better, and if you want to talk about shitting on peoples work read the wonder report.

[Nick Kage]

its funny how you say i wont work with you bold but when we had our match hours before it i offered up 1 or 2 ideas and you wanted NOTHING to do with them, you didnt even come up with any yourself or try to meet me half way with ideas of your own.

 

and you say i wont work with you? that was the perfect time to get the ideas and brainstorming going but you wanted to prove something. all you proved was you're not as good as me for the second time.

 

when i came to you with ideas you did not want to work with me, that attitude right there means you are checked off the list of people to work with.

 

i had one idea where nate attacked me and i fight you allready damaged meaning if you win you go on bragging about being unbeaten (it fits cuz you would have not addessed the fact i was hurt and it would have fit with your ego) and i can hold that againts you later, i also had an idea that we do a clean match and then we can adjust/edit the ending to to what fits best for both our ideas either nate comes out or you and cross can do something but i tossed out ideas to you assuming you (like the other Main Event guys even mid carders) would toss ideas back and we can make something work i wasnt only tossing 1 idea and saying "THIS IS THE ONLY WAY" i was just brainstorming and what did you do? you rejected them and said "I have something to prove i will beat you 1 2 3 clean"

 

sucks it didnt happen.

[Adrian Bold]

its funny how you say i wont work with you bold but when we had our match hours before it i offered up 1 or 2 ideas and you wanted NOTHING to do with them, you didnt even come up with any yourself or try to meet me half way with ideas of yoru own.

 

and you say i wont work with you? that was the perfect time to get the ideas and brainstorming going. But you wanted to prove something. all you proved was your not as good as me for the second time.

 

when i came to you with ideas you did not want to work with me that attitude right there means you are checked off th elist of people to work with.

 

i had one idea where nate attacked me and i fight you allready damaged meaning if you win you go on bragging about being unbeaten (it fits cuz you would have not addessed the fact i was hurt and it woudl have fit with yoru ego) and i can hold that againts you later, i also had an idea that we do a clean match and then we can adjust/edit the ending to to what fits best for both our ideas either nate comes out or you and cross can do something but i tossed out ideas to you assuming you (like the other Main Event guys even mid carders) would toss ideas back and we can make something work and what did you do? you rejected them and said "I have something to prove i will beat you 1 2 3 clean"

 

sucks it didnt happen.

 

I'm sorry I wanted to face you legit rather than have you start the match double orange. This was around the time everyone was talking about whos the best at 08' so I felt I had to prove something. I'm glad we did it that way. It seemed to me like a cop out that you wanted to do it this way yet if you came to me and said that you wanted to stage the ending with nate running in our what not I would have been fine with that. I'm down for anything but in that case after we had both been talking shit for awhile It had to be done mano y mano

 

 

Would I love to work with kage? Yeah! But when its appropriate, I felt like it wasn't at the time.

[Majin]

There aren't people holding others back but look at it this way, I can feud with mid-carders but all the ME's are always busy feuding with each other over and over again so someone like me or Bold, etc. will never have the chance to feud with them until they either a)get tired of feuding with the same 5 people or b)dissapear somewhere.

 

or you can look at it this way. ask yourself 'why' wont some people feud with you ? {and no its not because we 'know' you can beat us or we are afraid to work with you.} i cant speak for everyone but i CAN speak for myself when i say this. there is only a handful of people that i will work with. {story/ angle wise} and why is that ? because there are only a handful of people that i ENJOY playing with. im here to have fun and have a good time. i try to put on good, fun, entertaining matches. why the hell would i wanna work with someone who does NOTHING but quick grapples an entire match ? why would i want to work with someone who constantly throws their opponent around the ring ? why would i want to work with someone who does NOTHING but wait for me to miss moves before they even try anything ? not only do all of these look fukking stupid, but it makes the matches fukking boring. and sorry, but i dont like stupid and boring matches. people can brag about this that and the other and how many wins they have and who theyve beaten, but then, stop and look at HOW they won those matches and beat those people. most of the time its fukking cheese. so ask yourselves. WHY would we work with some of you and WHY do some of us only work with the same people over and over again. because for the most part, most of the ones that repeat stories/ angles/ matches are the people that know they are playing people who like to play the SAME as they do. they know they arent going to get fukkin cheesed. they know they arent gonna have boring lame ass matches. they know they arent fighting someone whos only out for the win. they are fighting someone who actually wants to TRY and put on a fun and entertaining match/ story/ angle and not have to worry about bullshit.

[Adrian Bold]

or you can look at it this way. ask yourself 'why' wont some people feud with you ? {and no its not because we 'know' you can beat us or we are afraid to work with you.} i cant speak for everyone but i CAN speak for myself when i say this. there is only a handful of people that i will work with. {story/ angle wise} and why is that ? because there are only a handful of people that i ENJOY playing with. im here to have fun and have a good time. i try to put on good' date=' fun, entertaining matches. why the hell would i wanna work with someone who does NOTHING but quick grapples an entire match ? why would i want to work with someone who constantly throws their opponent around the ring ? why would i want to work with someone who does NOTHING but wait for me to miss moves before they even try anything ? not only do all of these look fukking stupid, but it makes the matches fukking boring. and sorry, but i dont like stupid and boring matches. people can brag about this that and the other and how many wins they have and who theyve beaten, but then, stop and look at HOW they won those matches and beat those people. most of the time its fukking cheese. so ask yourselves. WHY would we work with some of you and WHY do some of us only work with the same people over and over again. because for the most part, most of the ones that repeat stories/ angles/ matches are the people that know they are playing people who like to play the SAME as they do. they know they arent going to get fukkin cheesed. they know they arent gonna have boring lame ass matches. they know they arent fighting someone whos only out for the win. they are fighting someone who actually wants to TRY and put on a fun and entertaining match and not have to worry about bullshit.[/quote']

 

Woah woah woah... I'm not Cross. Watch my match with Strider and the match with Kage I'm not like that. The only difference between how WE (the people your talking about) and you (your boys) play is that we don't run up and punch people. I'm sorry I'm allegedly 400 lbs I'm not an EX wrestler running the whole match to make it exciting. But I will walk up to you and I will slap you around the ring.

[Nick Kage]

bold it was an idea, it wasnt the only thing i wanted to do. i was hoping you would come back with ideas. I was open i dropped 2 ideas on you and your ego made you decide to not be easy to work with.

 

that is not main event sorry to bust your bubble, you get to main event cuz people want to work with you, not cuz people want to avoid you. You sided with your ego that is a bad choice.

 

 

point is when the time was there to plant a seed you didnt want to.

 

FYI bold in our match your FPR was fine and you were not cheesing or anything so dont think that is an issue cuz its not.

[Adrian Bold]

bold it was an idea, it wasnt the only thing i wanted to do. i was hoping you would come back with ideas. I was open i dropped 2 ideas on you and your ego made decide to not be easy to work with.

 

that is not main event sorry to bust your bubble, you get to main event cuz people want to work with you, not cuz people want to avoid you. You sided with your ego that is a bad choice.

 

 

point is when the time was there to plant a seed you didnt want to.

 

Hey at least now you can make jokes about me coming in 5th in a race :(

[Majin]

It's no secret whos alt is who btw everybody knows.

 

thats not the point. its the simple fact of killing character. if i wanted to be called by my alt, i would be on my alts account. dont fukkin call me one or the other when im on a diff account. just because some people have a hard enough time running 1 character doesnt mean that they should ruin people who can actually run more than 1 character successfully.

[Nick Kage]

bold i wanna see you do better cuz you have worked very hard, but when an oppurtunity opens take it. working a storyline will go farhter then beating someone ass sometimes.

 

we are not randoms you dont get points for PWNINGOMGBBQLAWLZZ!

 

the situation that happend between me and you happend to me and sideshow, he beat me but the chance to plant a seed was there so we talked and we planted a seed and it turned into a feud that put me on the map and lead to a title run for me. He was a legend allready im still gratefull for that.

 

what happens now is if a M.E. guy comes to you with ideas work with it take that chance over your ego cuz it will take you farhter.

 

ocw needs an open mind it needs to be open to put people over and getting over on your own.

 

keep that in mind

[Tyro Kraven]

I see it as this way. Everyone has their pro's and con's> charachters wise and out charachter wise. Both things matter how weird how is that may sound. Some people can be ME if they just find their own way to it. Sometimes you dont have to be good at everything if you can just find your own specialty. Here are some aspects of it.

 

+Winning the matches is import to get you your wins.

-Winning means nothing if nobody likes to play against you because of it. If nobody likes playing ya then being in fueds with people will also be highly unlikely.

 

+ RPing add's depth and give extra value to matches and makes your charachter.

- RPing can bring you down just as much if you have no idea what your doing and just rping for the sake of putting something up there.

 

+ A good unique CAW increases the chance of you standing out,making it a bit easyer to climb the ladder,and easyer the RP also.

- If you look like an established wrestler/real wrestler/unintersting default you will always be linked or tied to it and it might hold you back for a long time if not forever.

 

Mania became ME because of his long NA reign and he was very entertaining to watch. Had an alright good caw and unique finisher. Yes he was a mute most of the times and sometimes he rped but not that much. He's a cool relax guy outside OCW,but if you ask him for help he would. Those thing matter to. He's gone now because he has not internet.

 

Seth became ME because he was damm good at 07 and won the matches that he needed to win. He hardly Rp'ed but if you just win the damm matches ...can't deny that. With Regan rule of RP to get on the card Irving seem have lost some interest in SvR for the time being.

 

With Vega i became Upper Midcard /(ME in 06)purely based on my caw appearence and playing style+finisher. With a smaller roster i got into ME because back then i did win matches but i did not RP at all untill i won the Euro championship wich was the main title at that time for euro's. When i entered the big roster i didnt win much,so what remained was pretty much nothing as i for some reason was really bad at rping for Vega,i couldnt figure out what he was,charachter etc and thats why i started anew with Tyro.

 

Everyone has something going for them..some have a quality holding them back.