OCW RIOT - May 15th, 2008

[Leon Valentine]

and just whos talkin about 'originality' here ?!? tell me smythe' date=' WHOS 'run and stop style' did you COMPLETELY rip off... as well as half the roster ?!? lol a style that i dont even like to use any more... BECAUSE I CANT EVEN CALL IT MY OWN STYLE ANY MORE ! lol thats the way ive played since 06 {back when people HAD THEIR OWN style.} and noone else did it. it was MY style. now you ALMOST cant watch a match without seeing someone do it. so please smythe, dont talk to me about being 'original'. for shame fukker.... for shame ! lol[/quote']

 

I use different tactics depending on who i play. I only run at people that love to moonwalk the whole match but i have always done that, i hate it too but i also hate that 90% of the roster now loves to moonwalk.

 

But yeah that is what mostly everyones style is now and that's moonwalking FTW.

[Majin]

I use different tactics depending on who i play. I only run at people that love to moonwalk the whole match but i have always done that, i hate it too but i also hate that 90% of the roster now loves to moonwalk.

 

But yeah that is what mostly everyones style is now and that's moonwalking FTW.

 

but theres a difference in using the 'run and stop' offensively and defensively. to use it to prevent moonwalking is one thing, but to ADD IT TO YOUR STYLE OF PLAY {using it to set up strikes and or grapples} is completely different. using it THAT way is a 'style'. and that WAS my style. until half the fukkin roster started doing it.

[Smythe D. Wonder]

ive had the same fist of fury strike combo since 08 has come out. in fact i even had the end toe kick before rd did. rds used to end in the spinning polish hammer. {i think}

 

i have NEVER 'copied' anything from anyone. ive never just flat out 'stole' a style or technique or spot from anyone. if i DO see someone do something that i think looks cool, i may try to find MY OWN WAY to use it. to put my own 'little touch' on it. and if i cant, then i dont do it. because IMO... THAT TAKES AWAY FROM ORIGINALITY ! and unlike ALOT of people, i dont like to 'steal' other peoples style/ techniques/ spots. it takes away from the person that ORIGINALLY made it.

 

and just whos talkin about 'originality' here ?!? tell me smythe, WHOS 'run and stop' style did YOU completely rip off... as well as half the roster ?!? lol a style that i dont even like to use any more... BECAUSE I CANT EVEN CALL IT MY OWN STYLE ANY MORE ! lol thats how ive played since 06 {back when people HAD THEIR OWN style.} and NOONE else did it. it was MY style. now you ALMOST cant watch a match without seeing someone do it. so please smythe, dont talk to me about being 'original'. for shame fukker.... for shame ! lol

 

I stand corrected... point is... someone had it first and everyone is following suit...

and I give you credit for me stealing your run skipping all the time asshole... lol...

corrected statement "MAJIN originated the strike combo with the toe kick at the end... and now everyone has it.. be original people;)"

[The Steve]

How is it that the NA title gets so much attention when there isn't even a feud for it, but yet Trips and I have been working on a feud for 6 weeks now for the TV title and no one gives a fuck?

 

Is it that OCW bias we all know exists, or is it something else?

[Nate Ortiz]

Saying there is a OCW bias is like saying there is an "Inner Circle" which there isn't. Biggest difference as Smythe has said is the "Star Power" on the OCW side.

 

The NA title is being talked about because they want a feud for it. The TV title has a feud so there's no need to complain about there not being one. aside from the people who want the TV title defended weekly even though its just TV title in name but is exactly like the NA title. Just because people don't comment on it doesn't mean its not getting noticed.

[The Steve]

Saying there is a OCW bias is like saying there is an "Inner Circle" which there isn't. Biggest difference as Smythe has said is the "Star Power" on the OCW side.

 

The NA title is being talked about because they want a feud for it. The TV title has a feud so there's no need to complain about there not being one. aside from the people who want the TV title defended weekly even though its just TV title in name but is exactly like the NA title. Just because people don't comment on it doesn't mean its not getting noticed.

That's hard to believe when OCW main events most PPVs and not switched off month to month, but I've been wrong before and I could be imagining a bias.

 

Explain how we've had 4 comments on our feud since we started, and at least one of them had no idea how long we've been feuding. If there isn't a show bias, then it's gotta be a personal bias towads me, Trips, or both of us. Almost all programs gets some time where it's talked about by a bunch of people, however it seems like ours is just an afterthought ("Yea, they're feuding...NEXT!"). I'm not necessarily bitching about this, but more it's an observation I've noticed.

[Nate Ortiz]

In most cases the title match that Main Events a PPV is the one with the most solid story behind it. And it most cases that's the OCW title match. But CCW had R2G, Lution, and End Games this year. 3 of the last 4.

 

Biase could have somthing to do with it. Reed and Strider and S.E.X. feuded for two months for the tag titles and hardly got any comments on shows so eh.

[The Steve]

Fair enough...I can accept I'm wrong about a show bias.

[Heaton]

He is a former OCW Champion, Scaggs. He knows what he's doing.

 

Al Poling: Real Announcer of Truth.

[Majin]

In most cases the title match that Main Events a PPV is the one with the most solid story behind it. And it most cases that's the OCW title match. But CCW had R2G, Lution, and End Games this year. 3 of the last 4.

 

ocw MEed r2g. {blake vs brad} ccw had lution and end games. but IMO {and not to piss anyone off or take anything away from the lution ME} the ME for lution wasnt because of 'storylines'. IMO me and guy should have had lution. {as far as 'storyline' goes.} we had really worked towards our feud and put time and material into it. there was actual 'story and history' going into the match. the 4 way for the ccw title didnt have that. it was just more or less thrown together. but i kinda figged that would happen because i know im not as big of a draw as say rd and vs. then toss in spoon and seth. even though 3 of those 4 rarely rp, i knew me and guy wouldnt ME the ppv, even though we had long history together {ToP} and had been rping and actually building up for our match. and dont get me wrong, im not bitching or complaining by any means. im just pointing out my thoughts and opinions on how i saw the matches at lution. but then after lution i got to working long hours again and didnt have that much time to put into rps for end games, but i did what i could. so it was understandable for ccw to have end games.

 

Biase could have somthing to do with it. Reed and Strider and S.E.X. feuded for two months for the tag titles and hardly got any comments on shows so eh.

 

steve, dont feel bad just because people dont comment on what you do. would you rather get the death row treatment and have someone shove what you are doing down everyone elses throats show after show, week after week.... making NOONE give a shit what youre doing ? lol i know you steve, and i doubt thats what youd want. ive been getting attacked backstage for almost a month now, and have only seen like 2 people make 2 comments on it... the entire time. but i couldnt care less. i dont do rps or stories to get comments, i do them because i enjoy doing them. if people comment on what im doing, fine. if not, fine. i dont give a shit if anyone reads or comments on anything i say or do, because i dont do what i do for them. i do it to have fun and as long as i and whoever im working with is having a good time, thats all that really matters to me. the way i see it, people will either follow a storyline and know whats going on, or when something happens theyll just be completely fukkin clueless as to how and why it happened. {then they get to make comments that make them look like dumbasses. like people just now commenting on you and trips feud 'just now starting'.} thats their choice to make. not ours to make for them.