OCW RIOT - May 15th, 2008

[Josiah Cross]

Edited: Respectable reply...I was waiting for a "YOU DONT CALL SMYTHE DAWONDER A FOOL!" Here's my return fire.

 

You and Kage are involved in those feuds...I dont say "Hey Bold great work setting up that Rob Noxious run in. If you havent seen the segment we put together go watch it was soooo funny!!!!" I had nothing to do with Mace and A-Jax feuds...they were new to me like they were to you. I knew a bit of what was going on but the final product I didnt see until the shows. I dont live in the same town as they do anymore so a lot of our communication goes on through OCW. I gave them a great work keep it up kudos for their work they did on Ambition. That was maybe a 3 week period where I patted Mace and A-Jax on the back and no one else because there was nothing else happening on Ambition at that time. But in the same weeks I was writing Cross Examinations for the Riot show patting others on the back for their efforts.

 

So I gave two rookies compliments on their work...yeah they were a part of Death Row but it would have been like any other rookies. I see you comment on Malu and how much of a beast he is...or this for Blake...or that for RD. It would be the same for Death Row! Move on with it already and quit bringing something so minor up. I comment on Mace and A-Jax work OMGZZ!!! BUZZ KILL!!!!!

 

Quit making it seem like Mace is trying to part ways with me. Fact is Death Row is here for a loooong time, Mace just doesn't want to get on peoples bad side like any other rook. I did the same when I came to OCW and sided with Bold, I tryed to get people to judge me for myself and not on Bold's actions. Didnt quite work...so I gave up. With that said don't judge Mace or A-Jax for what I do. I told Mace he should go solo and for the hardcore title while I worked with Bold since A-Jax decided to have a brain freeze and not do anything. So going solo wasn't anything to try and break away. He just developed much faster then A-Jax has. Which has surprised me because A-Jax had past OCW experience as Rob Noxious.

 

Anyways...this should be the last time I hear the words Only, comment, buzz, Death, Row, Cross/You, or killed in the same sentence because any mention of them will be false and unessessary.

 

As for Steve, I said it while I wrote the Cross Examinations that my college schedule does not give many enough time to watch two shows a week. Where's AJ? Where did Mugen go? Balancing being a fully active member in OCW and college isnt exactly easy. Just cant fit it in at the moment. Being on OCW I follow it more then CCW. Some weeks ill watch no CCW, others ill watch it all or bits and pieces. So yeah I havent been following your feud for the past 6 weeks. Probably wont comment again because of your flip out. You werent asking for recognition just wanting some for the TV Title same gig...the excuse you made up for your complaining was terrible. Do it for Trips sake. Ok I will if I read or watch anything I like ill just PM Trips with some comments. Ill make one comment on your feud and thats, Steve as a face, is worse then Cross' attempts at being and ex-con face.

 

Final comment: I really don't like people who wake up in bad moods and bring their non sense complaining and negativity to OCW. Nobody liked this guy...

 

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[Smythe D. Wonder]

what's funny is that post right there pointed out everything I said before...

 

anyway point is... Marking for only what you have a hand in is the same as a self high five....

 

when I comment on Malu or RD of Majin... it's also a part of comment on everything else that happens in OCW or CCW... if they have a bad match I comment on that too...

 

I Mark for my faction... as well as many others... Air, Bauer, Vindicator, Banjo, SEX to name a few...

 

I am OCW and CCW's biggest fan as well as critic...

 

you've obviously stopped the pitching as of late.. but it was bad at one point..

 

and don't get it twisted Mace is slipping away from your grip... he actually challenged me to a match in the Riot card thread... forgetting that I AM THE ALPHA-HEEL... and I prove it every week... I don't take time off... ask and you shall recieve... haha

[Josiah Cross]

From a rookies work, I havent been dissapointed in ANYTHING Death Row has done thus far. Case and point. All those guys are top notch delivering people so you would grade their work on different scales. Bashing rookies isnt really the thing to do...especially if they are my rookies I brought in. I deal with any bashing I have for them aside from the boards, privately.

 

Yeah well I have yet to face Smythe DaWonder one on one in 08 and if I recall the series is tied 1-1 after Bold and Whooped you around in that handicap match last year. So somebody doesn't have any room to speak. I know that wasn't you putting the beating on me in that battle royal. You can have Mace...to bad their wouldnt be any Smythe left after that for Cross.

[Adrian Bold]

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[Eddie Mace]

Smythe I am in no way trying to break from Death Row. It's not anywhere close to time for the faction to split. A-Jax happened to have red rings so I went solo for a bit. Plus I was just involved in a tag team feud against Aries & Ryder not that long ago so a tag feud is not what I need atm which is why it's Kaang & Aries vs Cross & A-Jax.

 

I simply am asking to be judged for what I say. I thi nk Cross, Bold & everyone else expects the same for them. I get treated like I'm someone's damn alt it isnt fair.

[The Steve]

Want more cheese with that whine, Cross?

 

Remember, you are the one who started this when you went after Majin. But I'll end it here...you need to leave college and go back to middle school so you can learn reading comprehention. I commented that the NA was getting more discussion without a feud than the TV that did have a feud. All you did was interject you personal bias toward me to twist my comment into what you thought I said. It's too god damn bad you don't like what I have to say.

[Smythe D. Wonder]

Cross do you think your anywhere near ready for me???

 

first you should try to deal with Reversal Kang... then if you survive him... maybe... just maybe... Vimes will PUNISH you... and book you against me...

 

but for your mate... big mouthed Mace... it might be too late to save him... I'll celebrate my OCW title hand off... after I bust his head open... haha

[Eddie Mace]

No Smythe. For your own safety you should hope I don't get busted open. That would only fuel me more.

[Majin]

oh cross you silly little bitch. theres no need to sugar coat the name calling.... if thats what you wanna resort to. im a big boy, i can take it. tell me cross, just what makes me ocws 'biggest cry baby' ? is it the tear in my eye ? my sobs heard round the world as i lie trying to sleep at night ? please cross, do share what makes me a cry baby. because im about to share with YOU what makes YOU ocws biggest fukking whiney ass bitch.

 

tell me cross. how am i taking 'cheap shots' at you if what i say is fact ? did you or did you not comment on steve and trips feud 'just now starting'... when IN FACT it has been going on for almost a month ?... yeah. i thought that was you. and yes cross, that makes YOU look like a dumbass. FACT.

 

you say i have 'no reason' to talk about you or death row because i dont watch your matches or read your rps ? well guess what ? youre wrong. i DO watch your matches {sadly} and i DO read your rps. {and i can honestly say that i DO wish that your matches were as good and entertaining as your rps. i actually DO enjoy your rps. wish i could say the same for your matches... but id be lying. but hey, youve still got your little group of nut huggers to pat you on the back for that one. right ?} so cross, IN FACT, i have EVERY reason to talk about anything i damn well please. heres another little FACT for ya. at one time, i actually enjoyed what death row was doing. UNTIL.... {even though i know youre fukking clueless about this.} YOU started shoving it down everyones throats. now i know you are oblivious to this, {just like you were at a complete and utter loss about what ethics was when we had our talk in the shoutbox after our match, and EVERYONE had to go into fine detail to help you understand.} so i did a little back tracking in some past ambition threads to find some comments and posts made by... thats right... you guessed it... YOU... 'shoving' death row down everyones throats.

 

 

WARNING: The next 3 pages DO NOT contain cross shoving death row down ANYONES throat at all ! {oh lookie there. i can make cute little headline banners too !}

 

 

 

Death Row is proof that if rookies actually put in some effort to get recognized it will pay off. Three ambition shows, two with RP/storyline work and boom Death Row gets noticed. This is your show rookies step up and do something with it. You have a chance to RP and get comments and what not. Everyone knows this show is no Riot or Turmoil but showing some effort is better then no effort.

 

Now that Death Row is off the show for now...what rookies will step up next and do something? A little effort goes a long way.

 

I dont see any problem with A-Jax finisher either...he isnt that big. Although he has mentioned to me he is thinking about changing that one.

 

Solid showing again from Death Row on Ambition. Ryder and Aries vs Death Row has been a great sleeper feud. Both teams are doing awesome work. The opening RP with Valmont, A-Jax and I was very well written by Valmont. Great RP to open the show.

 

Mace put on a clinic. Damn! Classic triple clothesline to the balls. Oh man I was laughing good! Mace is really getting "The Lockdown" camera time. Ive seen Mace hit atleast 6 times since hes come to OCW and that is damn impressive. Mace challenges Aries and Ryder for a match at Lution and a pretty tight video was put together. The two tag teams go at. A-Jax and Ryder in the crowd and Mace and Aries outside the ring. Very nice work!

 

With Valmont getting a hardcore shot at Mania. And Mace coming off a dominant victory over him. Plus one against Baxter two weeks ago (who got a shot at the hardcore title the following Riot. Plus Mace's second purk is HARDCORE! I could see him giving Parker a crazy match and possibly pull off the upset.

 

Anyways, if you are looking to throw opponents at the hardcore champ I only think Mace would be a reasonable choice.

 

Death Row has arrived and we are here to stay!

 

Nice Cruz. Id say keep working at it. Forgot to report on the last segment though.

 

Baxter vs A-Jax was a great fight. Baxter controlled the match but A-Jax kept it close. That swanton by Baxter was crazy. I'm liking this new fued between Death Row and Aries and Ryder. Possible build up to a Wrestlelution match? We will see what happens. Nicely written RPs also.

 

WE ARE DEATH ROW! NOT PRISON BREAK!

 

It was a huge showing by both A-Jax and Mace. Watch their matches people both are damn good. There were a few FPR breaks but I've talked to them about it and they know what not to do next time. But for rookies and only being their 2nd match I was damn impressed. My work has paid off, I've really helped to bring these guys in and work with them so they aren't just the typical rookies with bad FPR and run their mouths like they own the place.

 

Oh and take back your words Smythe. Calling my partners terrible and just like the rookie Smythe. Well they won in their 2nd match so yeah...no more rookie Smythes.

 

FPR will develop through playing matches. You can't expect them to read and know it all. It's a lot to consume. This is why I like Ambition a lot. It will give these rookies a chance to get experience. I can't play these guys every day and help teach them everything. I mentioned everytying they did wrong to them and they know but practicing FPR is what makes things perfect and being timid rookies they havent asked like others to play matches outside the OCW booked ones. Ive seen much worse FPR matches from rookies, but with the minimal experience they have had I was impressed. Despite the breakages you pointed out, it wasn't unberable to watch. Simple mistakes that are easily corrected through FPR match experience. THATS WHY WEVE GOT AMBITION!

 

Smythe im sorry but you are totally oblivious. I have said SEVERAL times I told them what they did incorrectly. As did you. Im not telling them that picking up before orange/red is right. Or hitting a finisher before orange/red is ethically right. I spent A LOT of time trying to explain all the FPR rules to them...PRACTICE is what they need, and I see Ambition a place to do it. Since not everyone wants to play SvR for fun like you do.

 

In my opinion you should have no input on rookies. You think because you are in the Sensational Alliance...youve won a few matches this month you run the place. Calling Mace and A-Jax out for needing to be re-tested, having incredibly bad FPR...who are you have any say over these things. You are the only one making a big deal about it. They are ROOKIES, it was their first "real" singles match. And if you watch the damn match its a few breaks here and there but nothing incredibly bad other than A-Jax finish which is EASILY corrected. So shut your mouth...your words make no sense. "Dont go telling them its ok..." SHUT THE HELL UP! Read what I god damn type.

 

Give A-Jax and Mace the rookie start you had and I garuntee through the teachings of all these "top guys" their FPR would improve. You say they got it easy with this show...actually you had it easy. So shut your mouth and gets your facts right.

 

Damn Jobbers.

 

Added: I think it's equally unfair expecting Rookies to have FPR down in their first matches after only requiering them to read the rules and have one FPR test. It's a lot of pressure put on their sholders to meet the expectations. And to have people like Smythe calling them out like he did for their first matches doesnt help moral I tell you that. Both Mace and A-Jax arent posting anything because they have nothing to say about because they were mistakes...and they can't talk back to people like Smythe who rip them on their first singles matches. I see it both ways as being unfair.

 

Hell Id love to see Death Row beat BDTT on Riot, but they are unexperienced and that is a BIG match...expectation are high...its not fair to both experienced FPR players and Rookies trying to learn. I just think Ambition need to be re-looked at as like a training facility show.

 

I knew bringing in two rookies and making a faction I would fiind myself in this situation but that was one of the main reasons I did, just to go through this whole process again and see things through their eyes and help develop our rookie system.

 

A-Jax broke two FPR rules in his match...RETEST! IM PISSED!!! Dude your outlook on rookies sucks. You are way to hard. Are you saying FPR police arent doing their jobs. They arent just getting tested and then accepted...atleast I dont think thats the case.

 

For a first singles match and maybe 5th FPR match total it wasnt horrible. Quit making it out like its absolutely unacceptable. You grow from mistakes. If you are that hard on the god damn rookies open up a Jobber School and train them. Your expectations are way to high. OCW doesnt have a bootcamp to send these guys through FPR practices its one test and read rules. I know what horrific FPR looks like and neither of their matches were that. D-Jack has been here what 3 years had how many matches, dont even compare the two totally different issues.

 

If you expect rookies to have perfect FPR their first singles matches you are oblivious. You didnt even get a chance to land any moves your first 10 matches because you couldnt get a move in. However you got to see how it all works. A-Jax and Mace are both still learning, cut some damn slack and help correct them rather then complaining for retests. A retest isnt going to do anything they passed for a reason. Get them practice and it will be good. I don't care about your opinion, because its so damn negative and makes no progress other then calling someone out...and you use so many... ... ... ... ... its annoying as hell and not even worth reading.

 

For the record I Markout for your effort not your opinion. Effort is respectable your opinions arent.

 

Edit: I went a way for a bit, and realized this was a nice debate we had. Jabs were thrown which I like. We both see how rookies should be delt with different which is respectable, I dont agree with yours you dont agree with mine. But I'm done with it, not going to reply to another comeback post. Ill just leave it with one last thing.

 

There's a reason you and I don't run this place Smythe. With that said IM OUT.

 

 

 

ya know, for someone that doesnt shove anything down anyones throats, {or in your case, take it down.} ya sure do have an AWEFUL LOT of death row jiz running down your chin. if it looks like a cock sucker, acts like a cock sucker... 9 out of 10 times.... its a cock sucker ! and it sure looks like 'someone' or 'some people' are SURELY getting sucked off in those posts !

 

'.... DEATH ROW RULES !... DEATH ROW IS AWESOME !.... HEY GUYS GO WATCH THE DEATH ROW MATCH !.... DEATH ROW= SLEEPER FEUD OF THE CENTURY !..... DEATH ROW PUT ON A CLINIC !.... MACE, A JAX !... MACE, A JAX !.... MACE A JAX ! MACE A JAX !... AMBITION IS DEATH ROW !... OMFG !!! JUST WHAT WILL AMBITION DO NOW THAT DEATH ROW HAS MOVED ON ?!?..... ROOKIES DEATH ROW IS HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE !....'

 

oh, and then theres my FAVORITES !

 

'.... HEY GUYS DONT YOU PICK ON DEATH ROW !...... HEY GUYS YOU LEAVE DEATH ROW ALONE !..... HEY GUYS ITS ONLY THEIR 10000 MATCH, THEYRE STILL LEARNING FPR !....... HEY GUYS ITS ALRIGHT THAT MACE AND A JAX ARE COMPLETE FUKKING TOOLS AND BREAKING FPR ! ITS ONLY AMBITION !.... HEY GUYS HOW CAN YOU EXPECT DEATH ROW TO KNOW AND FOLLOW FPR ?!? YOU GUYS ACT LIKE YOU EXPECT THEM TO READ THE FUKKING RULES OR SOMETHING ?!?.....'

 

really cross, you fukking douche bag, you kill me ! lmao

 

and before you get your cute little pink lacey panties in a wad and go into one of your little prison bitch temper tantrum speeches about 'being faction members and sticking up for each other and praising each other', let me remind you of a little faction that I used to be apart of. you may have heard us. ToP ? 06 faction of the year ? ring any bells ? anyways to my point. i know about working in factions and how they work. and at NO time during ToPs run did ANY member of ToP EVER go around after the shows were posted and post up patting each other on the back, sukking each others dicks, and fingering each others assholes. at NO time did we EVER talk about how 'AWESOME !' we were and telling people to go and watch our matches and read our rps. you see cross, WE DIDNT HAVE TOO ! people enjoyed what we were doing ON THEIR OWN ! we didnt have to go around shoving our shit down everyones throats.

 

you say that when i post i speak as if im speaking for everyone ? well, once again you fukking moron, youre wrong. when i post, i post for ME and ME alone. {i dont post enough to speak for everyone. i only post when I have something to say.} what i post are MY thoughts and opinions and MY thougts and opinions only. BUT, im sure there are people out there who agree with how i think and look at some things. {as im sure you may have noticed. but then again, knowing you, this may all be comming at you to fast for you to fully 100 % comprehend whats going on.}

 

did i ever say anything about you 'bragging' about beating me ? no. so i dont know where the fukk that came from. but if you wanna 'brag' about that match, feel free buddy ! everyone saw the match and it got you nowhere. the only thing it got you was a little bit of heat to lead into your SHITTY wrestlution match. i hope you enjoyed it !

 

so go ahead cross, open your pretty little man pleaser again and go ahead and spit out some more useless bullshit that will make you look like a complete and total useless dumbass. because im sure you will. and when you do, ill be here waiting.

[Nick Kage]

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