Smythe D. Wonder

Please Steve you can't use credentials on me... I've been around more than you, and wrestled more Lutions than you have... I didn't say it makes you less of a person, I said I respect you less on the sticks. How you feel about that is upto you... Tibby is right tho, I can just steal finishers to get the auto-win myself. Going against what I believe in, which proves that the sub-finisher is an advantage. when you thinks about it FPR is basically as long as everyone is on an equal playing field it's ok. But if a sub-finisher doesn't allow a chance for a kick-out while a regular finisher does is that not unfair to the person with a normal finisher? It's basic logic... All I'm saying is Trips did the right thing. keep your finisher and keep your sub-win glory. But don't expect to be placed on a pedastool in my books next to the true "greats" by being them with the auto-wins. Anyway I'm done with it... like I said it's a difference in opinion!!!

I lose all the time... It's part of playing and part of competition... My problem is in the interest of fairness. Here's the catch Tibault, say we play a great match, even down the wire. Both guys are injured double red, I hit my sig, wake-up taunt, finisher and you kick out. If you hit your sig and wake up taunt on me, I know that if you lock on that sub the match is over. That advantage that you would have over me is where I find the issue. In years prior double red + finisher was match over. So it didn't matter if you had a sub-finisher or not.

I've never said it's all about the W... but this is essentially the problem... the Ambition era is technically 3 guys... who all have sub-finishers by coincidence... I understand it's harder to win with a pin nowadays... but cowering to the auto-win sub-finisher isn't the answer... When KD uses his sub-finisher he's a cheeser... but it's ok for other guys to do it??? how stupid is that logic. I'm done with this after here... because it's basically a difference in opinion, but there is a clear advantage for guys that use the sub-finisher over guys that don't... and if that's what you guys roll with that's fine... I just think it takes away from what makes guys Legendary around here.

Wait.... I only lost one match since my return... when Tibby made me tap, and that didn't even count cause the time limit for the match was up!!! I demand a re summary of my booking!!!

Mayhem that review was incredible... great read all the way through... and the input was much welcomed... we need more people talking about what they liked and didn't like about what they see on the shows... and if I wasn't mistaken Mayhem had 99 dur, 99 chrisma and 90 power of some shit like that being a super heavy... ridiculously overpowered and completely unjustifiable... it doesn't matter that you made a tourney of dark matches with regular stats and won... it's the fact that you used an overpowered Mayhem while you had the strap... pretty much overshadows how dominating you were with it. Steve... once you hit that one button to win the match with a sub move without any chance for the other guy to escape it... especially in an era where you can kick out of any finisher pin attempt... your playing with an advantage, so it's either people aren't allowed to kick out of finishers or everyone gets sub-finishers... we decided to let people use auto-win sub-finishers to win matches... which basically throws FPR out the window... Trevor manned up and did the right thing... that's why I'll forever respect him and his pride in his ability on the sticks... ALOT of other people are taking the low road... and I can live with it cause I love this place... but don't ever expect me to give you the stripes I give Leon, Parker, Trevor, Mayhem, Nate, or Guybrush on the sticks if you win matches with one button auto-wins... it's just not how the greats did it!!! That's where the ambition era is a step behind... whooping someones ass the right way is a work of art... shit getting real and you hitting Y for an auto-win is casual gaming... but slowly you guys are getting it right... I have to say that

It's funny... I kinda just meant... Tibby gets booked for a title shot, no feud no PPV, and tada new OCW champion... pretty same thing that happened with Ryder and Leon... remember Ryder returned out of nowhere and beat Leon for the title? no number 1 contenders match, no title feud nothing? the ONLY quam I'm going to have with Tibby being OCW champion will be that he has an auto-win submission finisher. But all the kids are doing it nowadays and we know how I feel about it. And to stick up for Ryder. We all hated he was champion and we pretty much all know that if in 3 weeks we put Tibby against an Overpowered Mayhem. Mayhem would crush Tibby as well. I don't hate Dupree or his work. But I'll leave you with this... Trips had used the dragon sleeper as a submission finisher for 3 years in OCW. at the start of SVR 2010 when the submission finishers started to become 1-button auto-wins. Trips changed his Dragon sleeper finisher into a Dragon sleeper sig. Because he thought it was a cheap win. I literally hold those with submission finishers at a lower tier than the guys without them on the sticks... especially the losers that swtiched to submission finishers to get easy wins!!!

I'm still not sure how I feel about the whole ordeal... Tibby has the same prestige as Chris Ryder had with the strap, given how he was handle by Dimsmore at R2G... The dream Match has become a "bedlam" brawl... Which would be sweet to watch... But did Nate return for this? It's original... And I can't wait to see what happens next week so I'm happy... Remember when Pugh was an afterthought in OCW??? I kinda mark for him week after week... Now that he's in blue tho he clearly thinks he's the shit... But if he gets his ass kicked by suda like we all expect he'll just be a square like Bloom, while we all want is Sensation. Dane and Valmont is going to be a good match to watch... I'm hoping they don't do some staged bullshit, even tho it's Lution.... I actually want to see these guys go for it... Dimsmore and Tibby's rematch (if that's what's gonna happen) has ridiculous implications now... Just crazy!!! Leon and Parker will steal the show, or so I expect.... It'll be the best match simply because both these guys really don't want to lose... The re-incarnation of Nate/Cage really!!! Jookie and Spider have a lot to live upto? Can Jook bring the house down on his first grand stage? I want to see it!!! Lution will once again be awesome...

Wow... did anyone see that show??? just Wow!!!

I'm not touching it till after Lution... And let's be real Aries... Who's more of a flake between the two of us... Can't believe you really tried to go there... Lol Shows are getting better tho... Besides knowing who's going to win most matches because half of them are jobbers against mains!!! MOTY: Pugh and Pee Stee for sure...

Yes, Bossman you will save Wrestlution with your superior writing... I stopped making dubs for my themes when it stopped being cool!!! I really do want to leave it alone until after Lution tho... And Dane, cute... I have a witty comeback in mind... But I don't want to go emo on me and send me a long ass letter ;)

It would be a decent defense if you attire wasn't Punk... You used the same gimmick before Punk... Or something that doesn't make it look exact... Just a damn shame OCW's guy with the strap has the exact same gimmick as the WWE guy... Makes it a lil hard to watch!!!

didn't think you could change it that fast.. but yes!!! Epic match between the greatest superstar and the most violent superstar is back on... and it's completely OK for Leon to use the Lution streak... because he legit has a Lution streak

Wait... you don't think you and Nate are ripping WWE??? LMAO... let's kill this convo... we'll discuss it after Lution... please!!!

Aries and Nate aren't better than that... you are... Aries "the best in the world"... we already know he hasn't a creative bone in his body... I expect him to rip WWE stuff... But not you Parker!!! All or Nothing just seems better

Parker your sig makes me smh... End of an Era... really??? your better than that... Watching Riot now!!!

Unleashed > Riot... I just want an Asylum recap... and Pugh you need to add some personality... we don't care about what's happening in the match... we're watching that... talk about playing styles... something... I'll bug Vega about trying to help tomorrow... let me call a match... show you guys how it's done!!!

Wrestling Insider reports. Smythe Dawonder skipped last weeks Riot to celebrate his younger cousins release from prison. The pair were spotted in Hollywood dining with Serena Williams and Rihanna. Smythe's twitter was blasted tweets such as "Wesley bout to get him some" and #Wesleygonnahitthat trended worldwide Thursday night. The Dawonder duo will be at Riot next week as Smythe and Tyro are set to debut as a cohesive team due to Smythe's underhanded victory at Road to Glory. Tune into to Riot for more on this developing story.

Associated Press reports!!! Smythe Dawonder has accepted the challenge from Tyro Kraven made at last week's Riot taping. And has released this statement on his twitter account to verify. "Challenge accepted, and when I beat you in fornt of 22,000 people we will be a team just like you always wanted. But I'll be calling the shots, whatever I say goes. You'll go to the top, but it will be on my terms Tyro. Oh yeah, NO DQ.... It's the only way to play the game big talker" Smythe Dawonder is a perfect 5-0 at Road to Glory with a steel cage victory over Leonheart and a fatal fourway win over Nate Ortiz, Trevor Mcmanus and "Mad" Michael Morrison to his credit. Tyro may know how tough of a customer the Epic can be. But at what is arguably his best venue, the proving ground for the big dance. Tyro may have waltzed right into the Alpha-Heel's ultimate playground. A we all knw that the more scare the rules the more Smythe likes it. The question at Road to Glory will be, Can Tyro Kraven outlast OCW's craftiest superstar? Or will it be 6-0 for SDW!!!

(On my phone... But this is IN CHARACTER) Aries... Don't make me remind you of why you shiver whenever you have to face me... You may very be the best wrestler in the world... Beat people down!!! Don't make me make that OCW championship relevant!!! Valmont... When you were talking about not being beaten in a year... I realized you clearly haven't faced Smythe Dawonder in over a year... You Can't Beat Me... Suda... Asylum??? No DQ??? Nuff said!!! And everyone else who wants to try to say something... I've seen it all, done it all and beaten them all... Whatever you do from now till you retire old, ugly grey men... You can NEVER hold a candle to "The Epic"... Iand Bossman all you had to say was... I agree with Smythe!!! Anyone else remember my Edge stolen Spear spot from 09??? And how everyone learned to counter it eventually and I'd just fail at it week after week??? Lol

You have it wrong Suda... I'm not one of those old-school over new school guys... Or else I wouldn't still be here... All I'm saying is the guys at the top of the ladder have to look like the guys at the top of the ladder... At the start of 2010 I beat Aries in about 5 minutes... Didn't make him look good or let him hit anything... I kicked his ass... And after that, he literally transcended into the best player OCW has... That competitive nature is what it's about... If you play a match and it looks like shit... Then it was just a shitty looking match... Guys'll watch and bash you and your next match you make an effort to make it better... If you redo every match two or three times you don't better at staging your style... I want guys to be good to the point where as soon as matches start you know your style, you know who your up against and it's more a chess match than circus!!!

I'm not talking about our match... You beat me cause your better than I am... Well at least you were then ;)... I'm talking about setting the bar between the guys that are good and the guys that aren't... I'm ok with someone looking good in a match... But it isn't your job to make the other guy look good... The other guy has to practice and be good on his own... Like if I get booked against Omar Gibbs next week... I should legit fuck his shit up... Or else why am I Considered Main Event? I understand that staged matches have to happen... But don't expect people to watch that shit with interest... I log on to see two guys fight for the Win... That's why style points are so important in OCW... Guys aren't letting you do it... You actually bust someone's ass while throwing in taunts, exessive moves and spots!!!

See your last post Tibby... That's exactly what I'm talking about... You're a champion... If you can squash someone... Squash them... But you saying you could've slapped on your auto-win sub-finisher even earlier proves my point even more... Which is why I don't respect even having them as finishers... I.E. Trevor has used the Dragon Sleeper literally for years... And once it became auto-win he stopped using it!!! We want to see people get absolutely destroyed if they don't play well... So what the top tier of players boils down to is guys that are great at the game... Then ME matches are worth watching because they're competitive by nature as well as they're real and look good cause the guys in the ring know their shit. Yes if I have you damaged and you kick out of a finisher I will beat you with pretty much any pin move... Cause that's the rules... If you don't kick out, you lose... And you might lose to a chain grapple pin... That's how it went down... Let's end the "let's put on a good show" shit... And let's start the "kick that guys ass" shit... I watch my soap opera wrestling on Mondays and Fridays... Thursdays we're trying to dominate!!!

:( Tibault kicked my ass... so it wasn't so bad that he randomly slapped a sub-finisher on me as soon as I had him damaged... I chalked it up to him not knowing any better yet... but Tibault will learn... We'll make the matches awesome again... we'll bring OCW matches back to the science they used to be...

Suda in old OCW... After the button mashing subs were gone and auto-win came to OCW we all but banished the submission finisher... It wasn't banned, but nowone had one because it was cheap... So basically having a sub finisher lowers your credibility with me.... Substantially!!! I never like redoing matches... I hardly watch matches that I know are staged... OCW isn't about putting on a TV show... It's about playing the game... Your supposed to get online and record your matches so people see how the match went down when Smythe got online and played whomever... DM's are to practice your spots and work on your wrestling skills on the sticks... If you can land a spot do it... But don't let a guy hit a spot cause it looks good... Hit your spots cause the other guy can't stop you... This is why we need a kickout rule... And maybe a course on ethics... OCW is a place to showcase talents... From video editing to creative writing... But we are here to compete and perform... We record matches to see how each other plays in the heat of competition and to see how the matches go down... And people hold titles because they are monsters on the sticks... Impressive with the showmanship and clutch when the heat is on... We need to bring the pride back... This isn't a casual gaming thread... You have to be the best out there to be the shit in OCW (like me ;) )

It's so crazy watching shows now f you've been here for years... Pugh is OCW's Zack Ryder... pretty much the only guy I mark for when I just see his name... he's like Eddie Allen for me.. he was awesome too... the Writing has gone to a whole new level with the former Amibition guys coming in... Rp's are good now... they aren't funny like the Old schoolers... but everyone can't be a comedian... The ME guys now... Dane, Valmont, Aries, Leon, are straight workhorses... quality content week after week... D-Jack's finally found his footing... I'm happy for him... Jookie is a crowd favourite as well... by default... OCW's best Stoner character and one of our best writers... Tibby has the impossible task of trying to write as a face character... we realized early in OCW that it's pretty much impossible unless your making fun of people... and kicking everyone's ass... He's doing a Nately job so far tho... and the Dimsmore feud is awesome... Suda is on an incredible run... (not so much the matches, hate to say it... but I don't give any respect to the auto-win sub-finish) but his work is top of the line... he might be having the most fun here... and that's what were here for... K.D is the new Adrian Bold... He's playing clean only if he loses... isn't fair.. but I guess he earned the title... I do suggest tho that people partner up and feud a bit more... working with Tyro is pretty awesome so far... bouncing ideas and suggestions off each other is what OCW is about... building and creating... oh yeah... Riot was Awesome that is all... and starting next week I'll be critiquing matches... and i'll be tough... I want to see the in ring shit clean up a bit goign forward!!!