Leon Valentine

I had a review I was meant to do days ago but I ended up getting the man flu, also been busy with work and when getting home just mostly been going to bed. This has put me back a few days now but I have something nice in store.

AA does bring up a really good point. I am sure if Parker was to have won of a normal move no one would have had a problem with it. Mayhem didn't break any rules and the match could have gone on a lot longer. I love finisher finishes but people wanted the limited kick outs. That's why we made the rule of being able to win of an impactful finish. Mayhem did that. AA is right that people do jump on the Mayhem is a cheeser bandwagon; I have also been guilty of this because of the past. When really I think Mayhem is just miss understood. Mayhem plays to win, some people play to win more than others and there’s np with that. He has made mistakes but we all have. We told him that his R2G finish was stupid and he soon changed it. Hell in my match with Patolomai I played to win, I had to use my speed to my advantage because Pato was throwing me around like a rag doll lol. All in all, Trevor, Parker and Dane should have all worked together and played smarter but Dane got R Truthed LMAO!

To be fair Smythe, Parker pinned Trevor of a groggy grapple. I am sure if given the same chance Trevor and Parker would have won of a normal move, all though I saw Trevor could have had Parker at one point but became soft and let him out. Then it bit Trevor in the ass because when Parker got the chance he took it. Sometimes people should use their own discretion and think what makes good TV. In Mayhem and Parkers case the match could go on forever because they can both kick out a dozen times. You guys have to remember finisher doesn't = death anymore. These are the rules that we go by now.

Some really good reviews. I will have some feedback to give tomorrow. This game can be difficult but everyone made everything work and really pulled it off, so really good work.

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Loving the Template! Not posting any spoilers but damn Jookies lines crack me up... "Just like Jay to threaten to fire a black man, You know were rare here in ocw." LMAO.

I don't know what Satan would do, but if I saw him? I would punch him in the face!

Smythe what the fuck is wrong with you??? I can't believe you of all people would hit a woman? I thought that goes against everything Smythe Dawonder stands for? The Video was awesome. Sensation and Smythe stole the show with that last page.

WrestleLution has come early, because me and my boy Dimsmore are going to physically beat the holy shit out of LOTUS.

I hate you all!!!

Yes... Guy Fausto.

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Sorry I edited my post, playing wow and trying to type at the same time. What I was saying is you made a rule saying people couldn't use sub signatures anymore. When people questioned this and said this is not fair you told them to get better at the game. People then said about the kick outs that it's not fair they can't do subs and you ignored them. You didn't listen to the community one bit. Edit: Only now, I am talking about when people first raised this in what you said. I have got my facts right thank you.

LOL this coming from a guy who when everyone told you that not being able to do sub sigs anymore sucked, you told them to get better at the game and ignored them. You sir are a hypocrite.

In that case, lets go back to being able to counter chain grapples. Doesn't matter how easy you can counter it's 2011 and that's how this game works. See where I am coming from? OCW has always been about sorting out the bugs THQ give us and making it fair. Like Trevor said, you say that you can't be pinned this year. That's an issue, constant no selling of finisher is a big issue imo and it makes matches unbearable to watch.

That could happen in 07, 08 and 09 though. That's why when someone would counter a finisher you would mark. Mania beat Smythe at one time in 07 I believe in 4 mintues. I know you hate this but it's not just me or Smythe that have a problem with constant kick outs anymore. A lot of people do.

I am actually going to name all the people who can kick out. This is from doing dark matches' Aries Chris Ryder Myself Trevor McManus Mayhem Parker Stevens K.Dangelo Smythe Dawonder Patolomai Dale Earnsmore Lucas Dimsmore You have mashers and you have people who can hold the button in. Single wise people can kick out by holding the buttons in. Anything after a singles lag can come into play and fuck it up. As for mashers you're mashing so lag doesn't affect it.

Exactly my point. Seems right now OCW is catering to the kick out system which is broken IMO. It really is like let us fuck over everyone else because we can kick out all the time. Again you don't need to mash to kick out but you can hold the buttons in. Seriously the answer to this... Finisher = Death Submission = Death That is once your opponent is injured... Also as far as competition goes... There is no competition in continuous kickouts. The skill has gone because you no that when you hit a finisher you're not going to win anymore. Then you have people trying to end it of anything.

Yeah the 3 lives rule is done with. But we have completly fucked over guys like Tiberius and Ryder just because people can kick out of finishers all the time. I understand his point and totaly agree with it. Like I said before, this is nothing to do about mashing. People can kick out just the same by holding buttons in, I can do this. Anyone can really. Also no you limped in red but you could restore it to oranage, I am pretty sure about that and you can do that in this game too.

It would still make matches' drag tbh like Trevor said. However if we were to go with having to get your opponent hurt before being able to do a finisher. So say for example Fausto vs Leon, Fausto gets me hurt and hits the cutter. Finisher = Death. This way we wont get a quick ending unless you suck and get your ass handed to you. You are also able to counter finishers like the good old days before you could kick out like you can now.

If you think back to 07, we had the a damage meter. We would only let people use a finisher once someone was double red. The sad thing is THQ were stupid and took that out the game. However we could make it that the person has to be hurt, so when you see that the person has his hand over his head you can go for a finisher anytime in the match. I agree having a finisher done one minute into the match would be stupid. However kicking out of finisher after finisher is stupid too. So you always have the option of having to be hurt before you can hit your finisher like the good old days.