Pugh Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Your hypothetical doesn't scream "the real" experience? You kinda contradicted yourself there. Plus, how often do heavyweights face light-heavyweights in OCW? Even if they did, this concept comes down to pure skill. If you're going to reverse the shit out of me and I'm going to just shrug and say "ahhhhdunno" on the sticks, then it'll come off as a underdog story, which is completely "the real" experience. My hypothetical is in relation to "competition". Having 0 kickouts makes it a race to visible damage, so somebody with higher stats for offence always has the advantage, regardless of the skill of the other person. Zero kickouts would only work if everyone had exactly the same stats, because then its completely down to skill. One kickout, or similar gives the guy with weaker stats a fighting chance imo. Uniformity is all very well and good, but theres a very fine line between competition and forgone conclusion. No.
The Vega Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Unfortunatly Dane,there is a factor in this game that does not make sense. How this game scores and awards signatures and finisher is beyond logic. I can have a match with The Steve and we both are reversing like shit yet no matter how good i go he always seems to get his signature a full minute before i do. Yet i have a higher charisma then him. I already stumbled upon this when i tryd to see if there is a stat in this game that influences the size of the blue bar ( wich there isnt ) So having it every match boil down to 1 finisher= death is a bit harsh, not to mention entrance would become longer then the match. There are just to many factors in this game that are not noted or can be checked upon. For instance do move still have damage ? And do moves have still a set amount of charisma(momentum) when u execute them ? Why is the blue bar when facing a player always the same size, but when playing against a WWE superstar,get hit by a finisher..my blue becomes so small i cant even fking see it. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7y1beZ6HA1rxb915o2_r1_500.gif
Useless Dane Xavier Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Unfortunatly Dane,there is a factor in this game that does not make sense. How this game scores and awards signatures and finisher is beyond logic. I can have a match with The Steve and we both are reversing like shit yet no matter how good i go he always seems to get his signature a full minute before i do. Yet i have a higher charisma then him. I already stumbled upon this when i tryd to see if there is a stat in this game that influences the size of the blue bar ( wich there isnt ) So having it every match boil down to 1 finisher= death is a bit harsh, not to mention entrance would become longer then the match. There are just to many factors in this game that are not noted or can be checked upon. For instance do move still have damage ? And do moves have still a set amount of charisma(momentum) when u execute them ? Why is the blue bar when facing a player always the same size, but when playing against a WWE superstar,get hit by a finisher..my blue becomes so small i cant even fking see it. I think you missed the part where I said your opponent has to be damaged before using a finisher. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jlethridge1/DaneCard.jpg http://wrestlinglol.com/photos/14n34sp.gif
Pugh Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 I think you missed the part where I said your opponent has to be damaged before using a finisher. Pull your head out of your ass for one second and try to comprehend what people are saying. Your zero kickout idea is flawed due to the way the game deals damage and awards momentum 1 No.
Tiberius Dupree Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 If you have a cooperative opponent then this a simple solution to making your match look good without a kickout rule. I did this with Suda for Lution. Do a match for a winner. Do and record another match for the show, with your favorite spots and moves. Use proper judgement on the length and ending. It may take a little longer, but the end result is almost always better. real wrestlers work with each other to put on great matches. we should be no different 5 "You either die a hero or live long enough to become Nate Ortiz" - Drago Cesar "Let me make myself clear: you work for me. If I tell you to fight Blaine, you fight Blaine. Hell, if I tell you to fight a lion, you WILL fight a lion and still thank me afterwards for giving you a job." - Mr. Sensation
Useless Dane Xavier Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 If you have a cooperative opponent then this a simple solution to making your match look good without a kickout rule. I did this with Suda for Lution. Do a match for a winner. Do and record another match for the show, with your favorite spots and moves. Use proper judgement on the length and ending. It may take a little longer, but the end result is almost always better. real wrestlers work with each other to put on great matches. we should be no different I've always liked this idea, but there are imbeciles around this place that can't be arsed to commit to something like that. Either way, the people who do commit to something like this will make for much less stress for our staff. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jlethridge1/DaneCard.jpg http://wrestlinglol.com/photos/14n34sp.gif
Aries Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I've always liked this idea, but there are imbeciles around this place that can't be arsed to commit to something like that. Either way, the people who do commit to something like this will make for much less stress for our staff. MOTHERFUCKER! You're American! This is America! WE DON'T SAY ARSED! WE SAY MANLY WORDS! They can't be fucked! They don't give two shits! THESE MOTHERFUCKERS DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS! Arsed? YOU FUCKING JOANIE LAURER VAGINA FACED FRUIT CAKE!!!! 1
Useless Dane Xavier Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 MOTHERFUCKER! You're American! This is America! WE DON'T SAY ARSED! WE SAY MANLY WORDS! They can't be fucked! They don't give two shits! THESE MOTHERFUCKERS DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS! Arsed? YOU FUCKING JOANIE LAURER VAGINA FACED FRUIT CAKE!!!! It was a hint. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jlethridge1/DaneCard.jpg http://wrestlinglol.com/photos/14n34sp.gif
Smythe D. Wonder Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Suda in old OCW... After the button mashing subs were gone and auto-win came to OCW we all but banished the submission finisher... It wasn't banned, but nowone had one because it was cheap... So basically having a sub finisher lowers your credibility with me.... Substantially!!! I never like redoing matches... I hardly watch matches that I know are staged... OCW isn't about putting on a TV show... It's about playing the game... Your supposed to get online and record your matches so people see how the match went down when Smythe got online and played whomever... DM's are to practice your spots and work on your wrestling skills on the sticks... If you can land a spot do it... But don't let a guy hit a spot cause it looks good... Hit your spots cause the other guy can't stop you... This is why we need a kickout rule... And maybe a course on ethics... OCW is a place to showcase talents... From video editing to creative writing... But we are here to compete and perform... We record matches to see how each other plays in the heat of competition and to see how the matches go down... And people hold titles because they are monsters on the sticks... Impressive with the showmanship and clutch when the heat is on... We need to bring the pride back... This isn't a casual gaming thread... You have to be the best out there to be the shit in OCW (like me ;) ) 5 Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Administrators Mr.Sensation Posted March 6, 2012 Administrators Posted March 6, 2012 Didn't you job your return match? 15-06, 18:20 Tiberius Dupree make him tap with brownie mix "Booking Wrestling is the most thankless no-win position anyone could ever be in. When things go well it's the talent that makes it work. When they go badly, it's because the Booker doesn't know what he's doing." - Eric Bischoff Jookie: what website do we upload to againi for got Our Hero: uploadafraud.com Jookie: fuck u boricua "I'm like Smythe, except Good" - Matsuda OCW works best when it’s a melting pot of different ideas and opinions coming together to create some cool ass shit. It’s at its worst when people are only invested in their own/their pals’ content." - Paul Pugh "I'm 5,9" - Ry "I'm sorry if this sounds mean but OCW shouldn't be allowed to vote" - Jake Allen
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