Turmoil 126

[Dennis Black]

I have absolutely zero issue with malu being where he is. I'm

Not naive nor am I talking out of my ass. Helen Keller could see the man has been taking it easy on people. The purpose of him being here is obvious. I'm glad he's being more aggressive with the character.

 

The issue I have is with the handpicked choice. And please don't tell me me isn't, because again, Helen Keller and blind folks across the world are insulted that you're trying to pass this nonsense off as anything else.

 

And yes, Ed has an angle with Jack and he who shall not be named. God forbid someone in the turmoil title picture roleplay.

 

Jay, I said b17 or myself because they made sense at 'the time'. Me being the Midcard champion should have nothing to do with the big belt. Nor should b17 being away. He won't be away forever. You didn't have to shoe horn Bray into the spot right away. Let Jackson gloat for three weeks until 17 comes back. B17 comes back, wants revenge, yada yada. Boom, make it official. You don need a 6 week build for those two because they've had a story since the beginning. I'm no Booker, but for the love of Christ, the next step for Jackson wasn't that hard. Regardless of losses, it literally could have just been Malu and we would have been like alright. instead of adding Seth who hasn't beaten Anyone and hasn't been around for real life stuff.

 

I told you that if a guy cannot beat the IC champ, he has no business in the wwe title hunt. You agreed. I said if someone lost to Drago, and was propelled to a spot against Pugh, it would make zero sense. You agreed. Bray hasn't beaten everyone of worth. Have we forgotten I'm up for upset of the year, some how?

 

Your response was "that's Turmoil." You acknowledged it doesn't make sense and probably wouldn't take place on Riot. So what's shit on Riot is a three course meal for Turmoil? I think that's horseahit and unacceptable, especially to the people putting in their own share of work and the shares of others.

 

People suggested Bray during the time of our match. Our match was MONTHS ago when he was hot, when you decided to bring Kassidy back, when Bray was actually doing shit. And while he was new; he came out out to nowhere like a bat out of hell. When he got his first loss (to me; your 'story and less thirsty guy), fucker got real quiet and less active on that. At that point, respect was lost. Shit is real good when staff and Sensation are squatting on you, but when you lose when you're projected to win, and go quiet? That's bitchmade. A loss shouldn't shut your top people up.

 

You think Pugh is going to be any less of an ass when loses? No.

 

Has any of b17's dirty pin defeats shut him up? If anything, it makes him talk shit even more.

 

Did Ed bitch about Bray when he lost? He did. And he wasn't worthy at the time. But since then, he's got his shit together and beat one half of your co main event for SL, and may even get both beaten when he faces Kassidy this week. We'll see. Who has your contender beat? Not me. Not b17. Not Jackson. He beat malu who admitted to going easy, who then beat him at SL. You think Jackson is going to go easy because of staff's next hard on? Absolutely not. I'm no Booker, but you shouldn't be putting the undeserving in title hunts.

 

Abbot is the number one contender for the TV title; because we are a hybrid fed. What he lacks in wins; he makes up for with effort. He's always there to fill in when we have small cards. His alt, has continued more content to Turmoil than Bray. That's why I wanted to feud with Seb. Because by any other logic, he's not a top guy because he's not juggling people in uninteresting matches.

 

The ship has sailed on Bray being a fresh new addition to the title race, and for whatever reason, when a man becomes less active, that makes him a contender. Should I just start skipping matches and half assing my content? Is that the example we are trying to set for the skulls, nightmare, Quinn, Jack, and Dustin? This is why people like Parker and Zander with a Z say mock us on podcasts saying Turmoil is the fluffer before a porn starts. Even though we do some things better than them, the horseshit here looms over us like a cloud...of shit.

 

I'm not saying it has to me, I'm fine where I am and I enjoy the Midcard. But if you're going to propel people on the ps4 side, atleast have it make some sense. We can't keep having new and old people Confused about who our contender is. Jackson and Kassidy did their thing at SL and it was a great match, but people were confused about the feud. Why it was there, and why it seemed more like the SL feud should have been b17 and Jackson.

 

I'm not trying to be an asshole. But if Turmoil is ever going to be considered an equal down the line, we need consistency.

 

He's what we have so far with our new contender...

 

*Joins OCW! Good content, whips three people in a row. Fantastic.

 

*Gets booked against the story guy! ("Ah man Bray gon win this shit".)

 

* story guy shuts that shit down. Stop sleeping on story guy. Loses to me, goes quiet.

 

*Doesn't do much other than matches. Randomly starts a storyline where he is obsessed with Dennis(months after the loss), when that should have been the very next step if he was going to do it!

 

*Beats up a ref, gets arrested, sister is a lawyer due to urban outreach thing or something. Not sure.

 

*lawyer becomes a wrestler.

 

* bray Gets hungry, passes malu in catering, is granted contendership.

 

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If being selfish is wanting your brand to be good, then we've got a lot of selfish ass people in OCW, and rightfully so.

[Xander Rane]

^^^^^^

[Bloom]

I have absolutely zero issue with malu being where he is. I'm

Not naive nor am I talking out of my ass. Helen Keller could see the man has been taking it easy on people. The purpose of him being here is obvious. I'm glad he's being more aggressive with the character.

 

The issue I have is with the handpicked choice. And please don't tell me me isn't, because again, Helen Keller and blind folks across the world are insulted that you're trying to pass this nonsense off as anything else.

 

And yes, Ed has an angle with Jack and he who shall not be named. God forbid someone in the turmoil title picture roleplay.

 

Jay, I said b17 or myself because they made sense at 'the time'. Me being the Midcard champion should have nothing to do with the big belt. Nor should b17 being away. He won't be away forever. You didn't have to shoe horn Bray into the spot right away. Let Jackson gloat for three weeks until 17 comes back. B17 comes back, wants revenge, yada yada. Boom, make it official. You don need a 6 week build for those two because they've had a story since the beginning. I'm no Booker, but for the love of Christ, the next step for Jackson wasn't that hard. Regardless of losses, it literally could have just been Malu and we would have been like alright. instead of adding Seth who hasn't beaten Anyone and hasn't been around for real life stuff.

 

I told you that if a guy cannot beat the IC champ, he has no business in the wwe title hunt. You agreed. I said if someone lost to Drago, and was propelled to a spot against Pugh, it would make zero sense. You agreed. Bray hasn't beaten everyone of worth. Have we forgotten I'm up for upset of the year, some how?

 

Your response was "that's Turmoil." You acknowledged it doesn't make sense and probably wouldn't take place on Riot. So what's shit on Riot is a three course meal for Turmoil? I think that's horseahit and unacceptable, especially to the people putting in their own share of work and the shares of others.

 

People suggested Bray during the time of our match. Our match was MONTHS ago when he was hot, when you decided to bring Kassidy back, when Bray was actually doing shit. And while he was new; he came out out to nowhere like a bat out of hell. When he got his first loss (to me; your 'story and less thirsty guy), fucker got real quiet and less active on that. At that point, respect was lost. Shit is real good when staff and Sensation are squatting on you, but when you lose when you're projected to win, and go quiet? That's bitchmade. A loss shouldn't shut your top people up.

 

You think Pugh is going to be any less of an ass when loses? No.

 

Has any of b17's dirty pin defeats shut him up? If anything, it makes him talk shit even more.

 

Did Ed bitch about Bray when he lost? He did. And he wasn't worthy at the time. But since then, he's got his shit together and beat one half of your co main event for SL, and may even get both beaten when he faces Kassidy this week. We'll see. Who has your contender beat? Not me. Not b17. Not Jackson. He beat malu who admitted to going easy, who then beat him at SL. You think Jackson is going to go easy because of staff's next hard on? Absolutely not. I'm no Booker, but you shouldn't be putting the undeserving in title hunts.

 

Abbot is the number one contender for the TV title; because we are a hybrid fed. What he lacks in wins; he makes up for with effort. He's always there to fill in when we have small cards. His alt, has continued more content to Turmoil than Bray. That's why I wanted to feud with Seb. Because by any other logic, he's not a top guy because he's not juggling people in uninteresting matches.

 

The ship has sailed on Bray being a fresh new addition to the title race, and for whatever reason, when a man becomes less active, that makes him a contender. Should I just start skipping matches and half assing my content? Is that the example we are trying to set for the skulls, nightmare, Quinn, Jack, and Dustin? This is why people like Parker and Zander with a Z say mock us on podcasts saying Turmoil is the fluffer before a porn starts. Even though we do some things better than them, the horseshit here looms over us like a cloud...of shit.

 

I'm not saying it has to me, I'm fine where I am and I enjoy the Midcard. But if you're going to propel people on the ps4 side, atleast have it make some sense. We can't keep having new and old people Confused about who our contender is. Jackson and Kassidy did their thing at SL and it was a great match, but people were confused about the feud. Why it was there, and why it seemed more like the SL feud should have been b17 and Jackson.

 

I'm not trying to be an asshole. But if Turmoil is ever going to be considered an equal down the line, we need consistency.

 

He's what we have so far with our new contender...

 

*Joins OCW! Good content, whips three people in a row. Fantastic.

 

*Gets booked against the story guy! ("Ah man Bray gon win this shit".)

 

* story guy shuts that shit down. Stop sleeping on story guy. Loses to me, goes quiet.

 

*Doesn't do much other than matches. Randomly starts a storyline where he is obsessed with Dennis(months after the loss), when that should have been the very next step if he was going to do it!

 

*Beats up a ref, gets arrested, sister is a lawyer due to urban outreach thing or something. Not sure.

 

*lawyer becomes a wrestler.

 

* bray Gets hungry, passes malu in catering, is granted contendership.

 

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If being selfish is wanting your brand to be good, then we've got a lot of selfish ass people in OCW, and rightfully so.

 

The issue is structure. If someone is going away for an extended period of time, it doesn't make sense to have a high ranking angle as the time commitments will be too steep. And then we get into that weird area where we have to bandaid matches because X didn't meet Y, etc. You're also confusing this handpicked stuff, I didn't pick anyone. As I said I cook up the sheet then look to my right and say "what we got. Everybody you mentioned actually has stuff going on for them.

 

You also can't take someone's dumbpodcast comments to titty. What Park didn't mention is PS4 has more discussion, and more content as of late. But then again we was all drunk as fuck.

 

You also have to take into consideration 1 show has 27 Episodes and the another has 436 Episodes, it's not going to happen overnight. This fucking notion about wanting yall to fail is dumb.

[Kassidy Hayes]

OHHH FORGOT TO MENTION....if it was "Who we liked" it would be you, bingo, kass and tank.

 

"Sensation tells me I want Instant gratification, but has no argument when I remind him you've been here shorter than I and have contributed much less to Turmoil's growth. But hey, "but yea bruh."

False the argument was, "he beat everyone of worth" to which you was like, yea well...

"You're the last thing on my mind. The only times I speak of you is when Jay brings you up 'constantly', or when he reminds me that leap frogging is only a Turmoil thing." And by constantly you mean, when everyone goes "ITS BRAYS TIME" to which you said "people trolling, b" And leapfroggin is a turmoil thing, because yall refuse to do angles if the gold ain't involved, it's by the graces of god some of yall are actually doing good story shit as you can see on this weeks turmoil which is packed to the gills with werds.

 

"At which I need to remind him that some of us actually keep track of how things have been on the ps4 side and want the hunt for our big belt to be credible."

Ya'll got super salty when the rankings where up, and Bray was top 10 and top 5 for a majority of the time so much so we stopped posting them.

 

"Staff have had their fingers too deep in the Turmoil Title pie, and are a big reason of why it is so damaged. Jackson has done wonders for it lately."

So basically what your saying is for the inmates to run the asylum? your saying that staff the gm's should not do there job? your saying "let me book myself strong?" what are you saying brah? Jackson has been doing his job since he won. The issue is when I asked specifically for any counter argument the best you could muster was YOURSELF and B17......that's what we call "egotistical, and or selfish"

 

"But then again, I am in the vocal minority of wanting Turmoil to be credible. I accept that."

You whisper but don't speak, I told you time and time again be a voice like b17 is. Yea because watching yall burn is way more fun. Don't confuse hootshit with site shit.

 

wait, yall like me? http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/TwistedKassidy/Skype%20gifs/cool.gif~original

[Sophia]

Man. I have so many things I want to say, but I'm not going to because you're all drama llamas.

 

Just say what you wanna say... If people can't take it then that's their problem!!

 

#MakeTurmoilNotSoftAgain (pause)

 

And that, folks, is how you generate discussion. *curtsy*

[Bloom]

and that, folks, is how you generate discussion. *curtsy*

 

and her name is soo phia!, appledough.

[Xander Rane]

wait, yall like me? http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/TwistedKassidy/Skype%20gifs/cool.gif~original

 

I like you too, your face makes a good dartboard

[Kassidy Hayes]

to be fair, that was because of B-17, he took the champ for 2 weeks of the build to go out on his terms and didn't really think how that would effect the title feud which after lution he agreed with since he was pinned. After it all happened then everyone agreed, him going out overshadowed everything else

[Dennis Black]

The issue is structure. If someone is going away for an extended period of time, it doesn't make sense to have a high ranking angle as the time commitments will be too steep. And then we get into that weird area where we have to bandaid matches because X didn't meet Y, etc. You're also confusing this handpicked stuff, I didn't pick anyone. As I said I cook up the sheet then look to my right and say "what we got. Everybody you mentioned actually has stuff going on for them.

 

You also can't take someone's dumbpodcast comments to titty. What Park didn't mention is PS4 has more discussion, and more content as of late. But then again we was all drunk as fuck.

 

You also have to take into consideration 1 show has 27 Episodes and the another has 436 Episodes, it's not going to happen overnight. This fucking notion about wanting yall to fail is dumb.

 

You say it's dumb, but the actions speak otherwise. We have a Booker who admitted that he doesn't even watch...Shouldn't things have been changed at the point?

 

I have no grudge against trance or the player behind ooc. I like them, a lot. But I keep my opinions of them as community members and staff, separate.

 

You don't have to say you want us to fail for you to give the impression that you want us to, or wouldn't mind if we did. The perception is there. Structure could have been found after like ten episodes. How many matches need to be seen or roleplays need to be read for us to visualize a structure? For us to see what Turmoil's core is? Do we really need a year of this to figure out what Turmoil can be?

[Jacob Trance]

What am I doing wrong as a Booker?

 

I mean, I got told I don't listen, I start booking matches people clamour for and that's wrong too

 

When it's not my turn to book I still make suggestions based on what's going on on the shows.