Smythe D. Wonder Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 Well that's good to know, guys. Really, knowing is half the battle. From now on i won't back up after a sling blade. I'll wait very close to their body, and not hit my finisher until they are upright. Just don't wanna see anything about a hover when the deed is done... THIS is the danger with letting things slide. Take this perspective tho Dennis. As soon as Leon became finishable he hit his comeback perk. Which he shouldn't have, to avoid the wake up taunt. K.D used that comeback as the wake up taunt and hits his finisher which is what would have happened if Leon hadn't have hit his comeback button. Now does a champion have the right to hit comeback right as they become finishable? Yes but this falls under ethics. Does KD hover in hitting this finisher right away? Absolutely, anyone who disagrees is doing way more damage than good. Leon and KD being both vets decided that the finisher was fine under the circumstance. So all was washed and the finish stood. That's what happened based on what I saw. Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Dennis Black Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 We all know Leon though. His ethics haven't come into question once in the year i've been here. Is it fair to assume that he was trying to avoid a finisher? Adversely, When trance hit his come back in the perfect circle, he wasn't rushed and had plenty of room. But i'm the thirsty one. How does that work?
Tobin Frost Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 Who's calling you thirsty besides people who aren't in the know man. Leon could have done it without even thinking. But to me it looked like it was to avoid a finish from my eyes and I've known Leon for years. I've seen people the last year roll out with no reversals knowing someone is probably gonna go for a finisher. In this case KD took advantage yea it was rusty but Leon's comeback was grey area for sure. If it was really bad both KD and Leon would have redone it. G http://www.ocwfed.net/recapshow/special/OCW%20Awards%202013/BESTMOVESET.png http://www.ocwfed.net/recapshow/special/OCW%20Awards%202013/rookieoftheyear.png
TJ Stevens Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 I don't recall anyone that thinks things over questioning Dennis' position. He got there, he earned it. As for three unanswered finishers... it used to be a rule, it's not now. That move he reversed before pinning me off of was a submission because I was going to try and tap him out. I then thought "it'll be a ropebreah" but it wasn't then I botched a kick out. Do I feel hard done by? Nah. If Dennis hit me with the third before I hit three of my own I would have stayed down and watched the ego inflate and then explode when he beat Pugh. There's a difference between lying down and staying down. It's just people maybe don't see that. Dennis is a good champ who does work, even if he gets super angry the moment someone questions something. Just breathe lad. 2
Leon Valentine Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 Damn Parker, you're an animal B! I am like why are there 9 pages of Turmoil? Go into thread and :( Just because I see my name getting thrown around. I didn't use comeback to get out of a finisher. KD hit a move and I used comeback instantly, he might not have hit his finisher or he might have. I wouldn't have known. I thought it would be a good time in the match to hit it but nope... F5 :( Honestly I don't really care. I congratulated KD, hell I would have probably done the same and hit an RKO if someone used a comeback on me. Now onto Dennis. This was a main event match. I remember in Drago and Parker we saw a ton of kick outs and people loved it. It's not like this match was an ass kicking. I mean if you watch the match, you can clearly see Dennis is double yellow and Trance has red head and is double yellow and Dennis hit his finisher twice before Trance hit is so I don't know what the problem is. I think with OCW, people just like to find something to complain about and with Dennis, people are just tired of him being the top guy because they can't beat him. Same with Drago. I went through a phase with Leon in 2009 to where I dropped the belt and everyone hated on that but then hated on me because I kept retaining. Granted I made a few fuck up over the years but you will never make everyone happy. Love or hate Dennis. He gets his shit done and puts in a load of time into this place. He helped a ton of folks out on the pre show and he could have said no to them and is the main guy passing all the rooks. This whole thread is fucking stupid. I am going to post the Turmoil card and vacation time for me... See you all in the new year. :) 5
TJ Stevens Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 You dropped the belt to Chris Ryder. Die in a fire. 3
Jimmy Henry Posted December 23, 2016 Posted December 23, 2016 Well I, personally, am stoked for 166. 5
Tiberius Dupree Posted December 23, 2016 Posted December 23, 2016 You can put in all the work in the world, but if you in yo' feel feels you in yo' feel feels. 2 "You either die a hero or live long enough to become Nate Ortiz" - Drago Cesar "Let me make myself clear: you work for me. If I tell you to fight Blaine, you fight Blaine. Hell, if I tell you to fight a lion, you WILL fight a lion and still thank me afterwards for giving you a job." - Mr. Sensation
Smythe D. Wonder Posted December 23, 2016 Posted December 23, 2016 You can put in all the work in the world, but if you in yo' feel feels you in yo' feel feels. Just when we thought it was over. Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
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