Trevor McManus

Appologies for the lack of me on this show. There were timing issues with the 3 way and I was unable to find a filler match.

If it's an exhibition then you don't get to report a win.

First match was decent. Not a classic but there were shades of a good match in there.

Everyone makes me do silly double team shit. He had my leap frogging. Mania's made me kip up before. Vindicator had me doing the 3D tonight in a dark match. I also marked for my knee buster into the ddt. When I hit the knee I was praying I had the sig move stored. Haven't seen the show yet myself. Will comment when I do.

Apparently so.

Anyone else find it funny that Sensation's song says "My legs are fast as a stallion?"

I'd agree with that. You guys can comment on how he played or his moveset all you want but IMO nothing he did was cause to complain about his tactics. The double grapple thing whatever you make of it can be countered and all it does it stop me waiting for him to miss before I attack him. So kudos to you Sir Bold, although I didn't appreciate being slapped AGAIN, well done.

He also means "write" as opposed to "wrtie"

But you get your wish I-gen as next week you wont be facing each other...you'll be facing THE UNDERTAKA! HOLLAR HOLLAR!

I kinda liked the MMM trickery into a stable mate fight type thing. It worked for me. Although there is a little too much I-gen vs I-gen IMO.

You get too excited about Smythe's ANIMATED girlfriend.

Never thought about the grip of madness thing like that before, that's a point. But like you said outside ref grab would have looked better.

Show opens with a Leonheart RP as he bitches to Regan about his steel cage match with Blade. Decent RP, written well. Didn’t really DO anything but it fits his character and builds up the main event. My match is the opener. I’d just like to really quickly say that I mark out for Vindicator’s entrance. Next we have KD to close page one. This guy reminds me of me when I first joined and buddy that’s not a good thing. HOWEVER there is hope for you. You’re at least willing to do something. What you need is someone to be like a mentor to you. Someone you can show your Rps to BEFORE you submit them so they can tune them and get them to a standard where it tells what you originally planned but doesn’t make you look like Johnny No Mates hanging around with the crew. Next we have a Regan RP turned Morrison RP. I pissed myself laughing at the “Do you have your hair in a bun?” line. And the ending about “that’s what she said.” Funny shit and important as Valmont will defend the hardcore title against none other than Igen team mate Kang James. That match is up next. Does say that in the RP but considering the videos auto load and I can already hear Kang’s music then I kinda figured that one out. Kang vs. Valmont - Kang starts off the stronger in this one but as it goes to the outside Valmont gets an advantage with the chair which I liked considering he is the Hardcore Champion and Kang is less hardcore than The Steve. Also liked the part when the music died down and Kang got Valmont in a strong grapple, Valmont counters it and exactly at that moment “here we go again” and the music kicks back in, reminded me of an old WWF promo or something. Kang looks really set to become the champion here but Valmont counters a finisher perhaps just prolonging his reign. Markage for Valmont whipping the ref into the corner then Kang reversing a whip to throw Valmont into the ref. Valmont counters a second finisher. Kang still has this if he keeps his cool IMO. A THIRD finisher reversal by Valmont and it just looks like Kang aint going to be able to finish this one. Valmont nails the F-5 for the win. It takes a great player to win but it takes a true champion to win when he’s playing bad, kudos Vincent kudos. Morrison and Leon take the chance to attack Valmont after the match. This just points out something I’ve been saying recently that I kinda don’t like. I appreciate the fact Valmont deserves his shot considering two people have stolen it from him thus far but a lot of storylines overlap leaving some people on the side without one. Blade cuts an interview with Stacy Clark. Talking about Leon, the cage and VFM. I don’t quite believe him when he says he’s going to make it 2 in a row beating Leon in the cage but none the less the same as Leon did he’s building up the main event which is nice since it is a gimmick match. Irving does a little talking to the camera with security behind him. It is what it is. Little builder for the tag match. Who the fuck is Kelly Gomez? Like the Bloodline entrance from the Madmen. Little disappointed Morrison took his hair out the bun though. Laughed my ass off when MMM tried to grab Irving and got planed on his ass on the outside. When Seth was in the corner not doing anything I assume he was wanting Mayhem to do a blind tag to keep the feel of the match, either that or he just sucks at tagging. Liking the contrast between Seth and Mayhem’s forced tags and The Madmen doing poetry in motion which by the way I have to compliment Morrison on, never knew you could fly. Mayhem whipping Morrison into Seth for that kick which sent him flying was awesome. MMM full nelson slamming Mayhem looked weird. Parker pulling the rope down to send Mayhem flying over the steps is the most MARK WORTHY spot I have seen in years, lot of spots we see these days are worked and this wasn’t, AWESOME. Mayhem responds by taking MMM’s head off with a close line and countering Parker’s outside grapple to knock him off the apron he then goes for MMM again but Parker grabs his like, liked this again as it shows how the Madmen as a team are all over Mayhem while they don’t need to worry about the other illegal partner one bit. How many folk are going to take the Orton ddt on the ropes? I don’t see why a big guy like Mayhem can’t use a rebound suplex or something. Triple chops out the ring was awesome also. The Mayhem hitting the ref thing as Parker said was kinda meh. The choke slam off the stage was a decent effort. Trance walks in on Aries being a bad girl. Awkward to say the least. VFM makes a match for R2G. Coop and VS against Blade and a partner of his choosing who can’t be picked from anyone in the ocw locker room. Kang verging on a possible turn? Saying he’s nice but ending with that he’s sick of baby sitting. I like how Aries’ hair is shortly growing back rather than none today, hair tomorrow like a lot of folk do. I lol’d when the toe kick made the ladder fall on Aries. The german from Aries to Wesley that knocked the ladder down and made it fall on Wesley was mark able. The right man won the match but still ladder matches are the suck. Leon’s a bad guy. Bloodline try to get Nate to read a thank you line. They wonder if anybody checked if Nate could read but fail to point out that they can’t spell. “Greater” is the word guys, it has an A. Fausto yougotadime RP is gold. He needs to ask where his 5 bucks are at one point and I’ll mark. Main event was…wrong. I think the game has an awful glitch cause it keeps flashing up for Leon to do a front finisher.

Since returning I've only used the spear on one person. I've used the pedigree about 6 times now. I've not had anyone complain that I don't try and use my ground finisher. Seems to me you're bitching that people only use top rope finishers because they're harder to reverse. Also seems to me you're wanting them to do something that's easier for you to reverse. I don't really see how that makes you any better than them.

We can't all be as skilled as the great communicator. Which reminds me, happy birthday to the real Reagan. As for the way I say things I'm the first to admit that I say things far too strongly at one time. That's because when I do or say something I do it with the full conviction and sometimes I'll do it aggressively and sometimes too strongly but I do it because I care. If I see something I don't agree with I want answers. Will they always suit me? No of course not. But as Regan said not enough people stand up, if I disagree then I will. One of the things I am very guilty of is picking a fight with the wrong person. In this case Sensation. You weren't at fault in this matter and I appologise for how I spoke to you. But whenever you say I'm crying or am I cry baby then it really does set me off. Especially when I'm genuinely trying to offer my opinion on matters. That being said what I said about Blade getting where he is because he has the right friends, while it still remains my overall opinion, is not why he was in this battle royal. What I will say about the battle royal is that it was poorly thought out and the reason it ended up being four europeans for timing issues was a problem. But the problem with it wasn't the one I had originally identified and I was wrong. So in summary I appologise to Jaysin for disrespecting him, I would ask that he accepts this and appreciates the fact that because I didn't like it doesn't mean I am "crying".

Glad you appreciate me.

It must have been that year or so in EWA watching you, warped my mind. Come to think of it I never got along with your admins either did I?

I'm done cause I did jack all wrong.

As do I Versus, as do I. I remember when a title match was had because someone deserved the shot rather than someone needing to get rid of a title. Take a look back at my comments on all 5 pages of this show plus the pre show for my opinion and feedback. Take a look at Jay's feedback on my feedback. Why should I continue to give feedback and what makes me think I'm making OCW better when I recieve replies such as his? Is feuding with a guy who's been away for as long as Frank going to help me get the world title shot I think we all know I want? No. Is it going to help Frank get his name out there and get him working and put him above your average rook who sits on their ass? You bet it will. Did Leon taking the Pride Title do anything apart from set up this mess of a main event this week? No.

I'm on AIM hit me with it. And you don't have to be polite to me. I expect to take as much shit as I deal.

There's a difference between the kid who wouldn't talk to you over Skype and the guy that's telling you what the fuck is up. By saying Blade doesn't deserve stuff I'm a pompus jackass? By saying "Blade doesn't deserve this, I should have it" THAT would be pompus but that's not what I'm saying. And I'm waiting to hear the full story. Hit me with it. ....All hail Euro Champion CJ Hoppus. And Karim I agree with you on some points about that. I'm one of the people who has that look about him but I'll admit I'm not great at creating a CAW with that star look which is something I need to work on. Your input is appreciated.

I made one joke choice in that thread which was Bold. My choices of CJ Hoppus was one I made while I wasn't sure if he still had 360 issues. My choices of Deano was a real choice. And do I feel that because I'm a good member that I can talk shit? Fuck yeah. I feel I have the right to tell you what the hell is on my mind. I make NO attempt to hide what my aim is here in OCW and I am one of very few people to tell you EXACTLY what I think. If that should hinder my chances of getting what I want then so be it. I will NOT lay my beliefs to the side in order to gain success. Should Blade or Carlos have been there? No. Should you tell someone to essentially shut up when they're DISCUSSING whether or not someone's choices ON THE SHOW were correct? There's two answers to that one. 1. If you agree with Versus' thread the other day then FUCK NO. 2. If you think OCW is at the same level is always has been then yes you should tell each and every single person here to put a sock in it. EDIT TO INCLUDE A RESPONSE TO NATE - I withdraw my statement about Blade only being in that match cause he's Jay's friend since it was Leon picking the opponents. However it is the reason he's working with Versus, because VS is his friend. And I see a heck of a lot of reason why that's an issue. When things started getting divided around here it was because people were only working with their friends. The bitch attitude of "I don't wanna work with THAT guy" come around the same time the whole "inner circle" joke started. People were telling Dangelo he shouldn't be aiming for high ranked feuds, Dangelo has as much right to a main event feud as Blade does.

I fail to see where I mentioned myself. I've commented on each and every fucking page of this show and not ONCE did I mention myself. I commented on the pre show and missed out my own match. I gave you NUMEROUS alternative to Carlos (I've only just returned) Cruz and Blade who is only in the main event cause he's your fucking friend. He returns from nowhere to feud with Versus, mind helping me out on that cause my brain hurts? Dexter D talks about how Frank is essentially a rookie cause he's been gone two years? Then Blade's a rookie also. And good god I BEG you to put me in a match with Blade. The stipulation being a "low card hell" match. If I lose then you stick me in low card hell forever and wreck my career. If I win, which I will, then Blade is removed from feuding with main eventers and stops getting these pushes.

You don't sound a lot like the guy who misses the days when we used to argue over elements of the show. You sound like the guy who is the reason that we don't discuss jack anymore.

Some people gave stupid choices. Steve did. Guy did. I gave real choices. As did the majority of the people there. The one who gave the most stupid choices was Leon, with the exception of Parker.