Tobin Frost

IMO only thing that will tarnish it is if it doesn't have a storyline. If the belts have angles that make sense and are compelling then it's ok if the champ loses. Doesn't take away from the previous holder if they are moving up to bigger and better things.

things getting real

Again double champs always get tossed in these types of situations. Where were these issues when I used to get put in multiman matches just because or when I was just champion with a title shot lol.

Ah there was a time when the same guy got a shot 3 months in a row was a norm. In this case the storyline fits it. But it's not like Mugen will just toss himself in there again if he doesn't win this time. Enjoy the stories and the fact that Turmoil is getting its first ME. Funny how without cry or complaining its worked out for Nate, Tobin, and Malu have MEed that last 3 cides. Guys who are new please rp and keep doing stories. You will get what you put into OCW in time. Drago kicked ass for over a year and just now got his top title shot and is making the most of it. Keep trycking and lets make summercide 10 our best yet.

We don't need to go back to 126

OCW has a long standing tradition of putting double champs through the ringer in hopes of freeing the lower tier belt up for other folks. It doesn't hurt the belt if someone else wins it in a multi-man and loses it. Eventually, someone else will come along and have another solid run with it. We all know that Drago when he loses, was capable of holding on to the belt pretty much as long as he wanted to, but now he has the top belt and looks to have it just as long. NA title doesn't have to be tied up and defended just randomly while the champ focuses on the world title. Same thing with Denny or Malu being double champ defending the TV title in matches where the odds are against them will 1 add to their legacy if they win, or 2 open up a belt for other guys to fight for. Yall should have been here for those few months when Geo had control of OCW, Mugenta is a tyrant but he's pretty tame compared to that guy.

06-07 me isn't fun every so often that person peaks his head out. Just know the pukka pie eating mfer is here to life the ps4 side up. Getting it to ME ppvs has always been the goal so thats it. Whoever is next just better be on that A+ game. For all of you looking to get to the ME just look at me and parker for a blue print. I've got 3 ME level guys. One on history, one on just winning when needed, and one built from nothing. 3 world champs something no one else can claim. I've done it all the same way 11 years in its served me well. Everyone should just be focused on putting on the best stories and the title matches with come. No need to eorry about it all now. It all has a way of working out.

No one who hasn't been here for more than 2 seasons should be smelling anything. But eh what do I know.

After not playing each other for like 4-5 years it was nice to get 2 matches in with Ste.

Majin no need to explain we know you go above and beyond with your work. This is damn Cody powerbombing his mom level stuff.

Sensational Alliance, swo was a one night only deal. Ah Jay's army to take down that one guy...

You bumped the Turmoil Card over the show.

bump damn it bray

I feel like the Turmoil and Riot threads need Tobin bombs but ive have at least 8 shots maybe I should wait till the am.

Eh had to fight Dupree, Sean, and Pugh to get the NA title off me. Odds are on the fields side but Drago is Tiger Woods. If this one doesn't work Mr. 364 days wouldn't mind lol.

I miss Cody's reviews. Damn him for having a job.

Does winning matter? Yes. Is winning alone gonna get you title shots and the like? No you need to be consistent and run a consistent damn storyline. Do that and keep winning and you get where you seem to want to be. Take it from the guy whos been here through all the eras and bullshit.

Was nice to see the champ on a good amount of the show, picking up the ball and running with it. Liked the rp with Pugh talking about that little ref bump from last week. Nice to see the bombshells keeping things moving along. Baker and Flynn rp was funny, had me thinking of bridesmaids when she had to shit in the street. Majin and Steve just screwed themselves and they don't even know it. Tibby is Tibby he's a wizard with the words he puts down every week. Denny just needs to start using that running knee as he's fin, I feel like I've see that ending most of his matches. When he backs up to make space gotta watch the knee kids. I'll say this if the title match just watching it you can see Sean wasn't Savage Sean. Damn coaching and stuff keeping him away from playing the game. Regardless Drago took advantage of his opportunities like I said earlier and had a clutch kickout and that damn resilience. Still a lot of what ifs for me in this one. Being someone who's pulled this feat off a couple times a part of me thinks its cool to be on the other side of it. If the overlord wants to get the belt off of him toss him in a fatal 4-way or something or something where anything can happen.

Drago did what he was supposed to do. Took advantage where he needed to and pulled it off. #Curseofthedoorbell #bouttimeiwasontheotherendofthestick Besides that enjoyed what I've seen so far will say a few more words after processing. 10 hours of driving then going to work isn't the business.

When they hate you don't it mean you're doing it right.

Sounds like something a racist would say lol This is gonna be a running joke for a while, speaking from experience.

Enjoyed the show a lot. Jackson is gonna be just fine coming off losing the strap. Good stuff boss. It's the Guy Fausto Chin Lock, Nate had the STFU lol. On the drama of yesterday... These complaints that people have been making about the layout and commentary have been being made for months. No one suggested someone stepping in and doing commentary or anything then. (Good idea should get someone on that if he doesn't wanna do it). Jamie goes away and Leon steps in and gives folks the layout they've been asking for and commentary. People are happy. So you can't get mad if things go back to what the majority of the folks said they didn't like in the first place. Things just boiled over. Yes being a GM is a thankless job. But it doesn't put you above reproach. So if the layout isn't changing which people really want then you gotta put in the effort somewhere else, like commentary. When someone doesn't have a match there you hop on aim, send a pm, ask people you know play often with people involved in the match. __________________ For these folks saying the Turmoil guys should shut up and just be thankful? No, you get better with constructive criticism. Sometimes you ain't gonna like it but you take it and make things better. These PS4 folks have helped bring as much life to OCW as the guys on Riot have. Without their discussion and effort it would feel more like a summer lul than just going on strong like we have. They want their show to have the production quality that Jay gives Riot. We also know Jamie is trying but they have the right to speak up and help mold the show into what they envision. I've grabbed myself a WYSIWYG html editor. I'll pick up Unleashed or Asylum and give an alternative.

Malu's gonna eat you!

Could be rookie goes to get a hot dog in the stands. Thinks to himself as long as I'm employed here I'm gonna be in the ring not sitting watching the show. Anything really would work here. But I get you, just know that when people say rooks do a match or turn something in they mean it. It's how you get noticed and booked more regularly. Pugh's been using the GTS forever it's the running joke you're always supposed to kick out at 1. It's a nod to Aries. It's his thing just ignore it.

Also wanted to shout out Jackson, you had a good run boss. You've been one of the flag carriers for Turmoil and I know you'll keep doing your thing. Drago if you wanna go ahead and send the NA title over to Tobin you can then you can fight Pugh without that extra gold holding you down.