Dennis Black

You and your cronies aren't going to run me off, b. But i will give you credit, this is probably the most effort you've put into any discussion we have had in a long while. Granted, half of the response is horse shit, and was skimmed. You leave out 'why' i left that chat. I came to you because Turmoil was in rough shape. You LAUGHED because i was begging you, fucking BEGGING you to help me change our situation. The issues that turmoil had would have been fixed in a day if they took place on xb. But because it was ps4, you dragged your feet and just felt we were being dramatic. You didn't give a shit. Hell, your staff have literally stated 'i don't care, its turmoil'. But i'm the asshole....yep. but it is what it is. Your double standards are alive in well. In one breath you call me fragile and a snowflake for being upset when posts are directed at me. Then turn around and get bent out of shape when i call you out on being a douche? You've never been told to change, not by me. But the gimmick of being the hard ass new yorker means little when you are probably one of the more sensitive guys here. I don't seek for anyone to kiss my ass. And i've been consistent on my views here, while 'you' play the fence. Say what you will about me, jay. But i've always been up front with you. You get on this high horse as if you've never done anything wrong, or as if you 'haven't' been one of the main reasons Ps4 felt alienated in the first place. They don't come to you because of shit like this. Why do you wonder? All you've been these last two years is a faceless owner who doesn't watch our shows or knows our stories while deciding what ps4 matches are worthy of an OCW ppv after asking ME what the fuck our feuds were to begin with. You are the owner of OCW. But you are far from a leader. You've made no efforts to be one, and often forget there are two consoles that make up OCW now. 'That' is why there will be always be a divide. You assist in perpetuating the 'us' vs 'them' mentality. Regardless of what your crew feels about me, I am a big part of why Ps4 is still here. I don't need your praise nor theirs. the fact that Turmoil is still improving two years later in spite of minimal care or interest from people like 'you' is what keeps me here. The former ps4 handlers, the current, and the future ones know that be true. And you will 'never' be able to take that away from me.

LOL he is on discord. I can't on the site because he's a mod ; ; so...i'm stuck.

I've also backed you time and time again when people just felt you didn't give two fucks about Ps4. Even after Ps4's support of me comes and goes like the wind. But hey, that's just me being fake right? That's me being an idiot for sitting with both sides. Both systems. Multiple cliqs of people in your community. Fuck me for giving a shit.

Oh, understood. You just want to have a four way conversation where two of the people will just agree with you, out of respect for you, or simply a dislike for me. Never once did I say I am the only one that busts my ass in OCW. Are you just incapable of sticking to the facts? It's hard to have a legitimate discussion about OCW because of tactics like that. It's part of the reason I just keep my distance from you and keep shit to the minimum. Things outside of that circle mean nothing to you. I say this as some one who has been in there and witnessed it first hand. Hell, even took part in it. I legitimately want to 'help' you keep this place going. I legitimately want to see us go thirteen more years, and grow. But a few different ideas and having a spine is me trying to change you? That's a fairly ignorant stance to take.

Pretend to be like me? Should i be more like you? Not giving a flying fuck about rookies? Rookies are a big reason of why YOU have made it thirteen years. Not once have I 'ever' said I am perfect. But would I rather be one of your guys and not give a shit about people on the come up? Or do what I can to ensure we have a crop that gets through the season? Get off your high horse. I bust my ass for OCW. You are the last person to speak about being a snowflake, jay. We can debate any day of the week, and you won't have a leg to stand on. I will roast you from sun up to sun down. It won't take long for an intellectual conversation to break down to 'fuck you', because 'you' as a person cannot handle it. I've done it plenty. Then, now, and forever.

And to be clear, the words are not what i find to be offensive. It is your actions, and at times, your inaction. You've known that for quite some time. This isn't anything new. We clash the way we do not out of any disrespect for what you've done for the last thirteen years. We clash because I say what needs to be said. I mean the semi racist comment is cute. But we aren't talking about people getting offended over fucking fiction. We are talking about the owner of the site throwing shade at people who don't deserve it. You know that my intent isn't malicious. The insinuation was a douche move.

I keep forgetting you haven't made an attempt at finding middle ground between being an asshole and engaging in a circle jerk. My mistake. Maybe you should try it some time. You know, lead by example.

Eh, it is what it is. Can't have an opinion unless it's to kiss someone's ass in hoot chat yea? Old Country way. I've said what I needed to say. It was a disrespectful insinuation about two people that have worked hard for this community during their short tenure here. If stepping up for them requires 'mocking', then so be it.

but there are 'two' singles champions not defending. The comment in question was about champions not defending this sunday, not the 'community' as a whole. With all due respect, please get the facts or at least make the attempt at reading my entire post before tripping over each other at the opportunity to defend jay.

Actually, the last perfect circle was attempted by Dennis Black. But unless you are one of jay’s boys, didn’t happen yea... I didn’t appreciate the implication that Someone was trying to be ‘slick’ by not defending this Sunday. You know very well why the handler didn’t as Sophia last month. It was to assist in someone else’s feud. She defended on the very next episode of Turmoil after that missed ppv, fulfilling the at least one defense a month requirement. Not cool, simply for the sake of ‘putting your foot down’. You know that she of all people has no reason to hide from any handler in ocw, being arguably one of your best with any of their characters on either system. I can also name 2, possibly 3 instances last season where the Turmoil Title was defended on ppv and the ocw title was not. Not a peep from you or anyone at that time about someone being ‘slick’. I truly do not understand how you can upload a podcast claiming that we are a community and then, in the very same breath, turn around and spread misinformation about two of the hardest working contributors on ps4. As our leader, this was reckless of you.

anything with Dupree is the Main event maaaan.

Is the end of the ME a FPR break? There was not a reset after Dupree's ground submission.

Moving on! That main event was everything I hoped it would be. Some cool moments and a ending that sets up for the future. Good job to the handlers.

The cookie? The cup? or the lady?

as the Epitome of what a black wrestler should be, I support all black wrestlers. Especially during Dennis Black history Month.

I dunno how I feel about someone using kass’s entrance other than spider. Change it scarr! I’m a fan of cyborg.

Indeed!

Nate: Screw that B-17 guy.

Specify ?

Cuck title remains.

Nice attire kit

Cj Irish it is

You barely respect yourself.... How are WE supposed to respect you? lol

Right! Damn you Lee