Smythe D. Wonder Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 :( Tibault kicked my ass... so it wasn't so bad that he randomly slapped a sub-finisher on me as soon as I had him damaged... I chalked it up to him not knowing any better yet... but Tibault will learn... We'll make the matches awesome again... we'll bring OCW matches back to the science they used to be... Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Vincent Valmont Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 If you have a cooperative opponent then this a simple solution to making your match look good without a kickout rule. I did this with Suda for Lution. Do a match for a winner. Do and record another match for the show, with your favorite spots and moves. Use proper judgement on the length and ending. It may take a little longer, but the end result is almost always better. real wrestlers work with each other to put on great matches. we should be no different Usually these only work on continuing feuds, but your point is still right. We need a kickout rule, but we'll see. I'm happy we're discussing things. Keep this shit up, OCW... OCW's 2008's Most Improved Wrestler 2x OCW Heavyweight Champion2x OCW Hardcore Champion
Parker Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Suda in old OCW... After the button mashing subs were gone and auto-win came to OCW we all but banished the submission finisher... It wasn't banned, but nowone had one because it was cheap... So basically having a sub finisher lowers your credibility with me.... Substantially!!! I never like redoing matches... I hardly watch matches that I know are staged... OCW isn't about putting on a TV show... It's about playing the game... Your supposed to get online and record your matches so people see how the match went down when Smythe got online and played whomever... DM's are to practice your spots and work on your wrestling skills on the sticks... If you can land a spot do it... But don't let a guy hit a spot cause it looks good... Hit your spots cause the other guy can't stop you... This is why we need a kickout rule... And maybe a course on ethics... OCW is a place to showcase talents... From video editing to creative writing... But we are here to compete and perform... We record matches to see how each other plays in the heat of competition and to see how the matches go down... And people hold titles because they are monsters on the sticks... Impressive with the showmanship and clutch when the heat is on... We need to bring the pride back... This isn't a casual gaming thread... You have to be the best out there to be the shit in OCW (like me ;) ) What he said ^^ And regarding Dane's idea, as I've said many, many times before...PEOPLE WHO HIT FINISHERS ON UN-DAMAGED OPPONENTS ARE FUCKING RETARDED....it's just common sense that they a healthy opponent will kick out. People are stupid. 1 http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5774/sig2uq.jpg 2 x Hardcore Champion (Longest defending OCW champ,19 defences) 1 x NA Champion 1 x Pride Champion 1 x TV Champion 2 x OCW World Heavyweight Champion F.I Winner 2012 MOTN vs Leonheart @ Wrestlution 7 'Don't worry about no one else, hows my hair look' - Tiberius Dupree 'Wipe you ass and go to bed' - Sensation to B17
Tiberius Dupree Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 :( Tibault kicked my ass... so it wasn't so bad that he randomly slapped a sub-finisher on me as soon as I had him damaged... I chalked it up to him not knowing any better yet... but Tibault will learn... We'll make the matches awesome again... we'll bring OCW matches back to the science they used to be... I'll learn? I don't know any better? Eat Dick! I've put on more than a handful of awesome matches this year. And they were highly competitive, and most of them I didn't win with a sub fin. I just know your COMPETITIVE ass would pin me off a chain grapple. Our match could have been 5 mins, I held my finisher for hella long, just so you didn't look like complete shit. Maybe you should learn some humility. 3 "You either die a hero or live long enough to become Nate Ortiz" - Drago Cesar "Let me make myself clear: you work for me. If I tell you to fight Blaine, you fight Blaine. Hell, if I tell you to fight a lion, you WILL fight a lion and still thank me afterwards for giving you a job." - Mr. Sensation
Pugh Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I'll learn? I don't know any better? Eat Dick! I've put on more than a handful of awesome matches this year. And they were highly competitive, and most of them I didn't win with a sub fin. I just know your COMPETITIVE ass would pin me off a chain grapple. Our match could have been 5 mins, I held my finisher for hella long, just so you didn't look like complete shit. Maybe you should learn some humility. http://cdn2.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/3844/funny_cat_pictures_163.jpg No.
Parker Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I'll learn? I don't know any better? Eat Dick! I've put on more than a handful of awesome matches this year. And they were highly competitive, and most of them I didn't win with a sub fin. I just know your COMPETITIVE ass would pin me off a chain grapple. Our match could have been 5 mins, I held my finisher for hella long, just so you didn't look like complete shit. Maybe you should learn some humility. http://assets.gearlive.com/playfeed/blogimages/its-on-like-donkey-kong.jpg http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5774/sig2uq.jpg 2 x Hardcore Champion (Longest defending OCW champ,19 defences) 1 x NA Champion 1 x Pride Champion 1 x TV Champion 2 x OCW World Heavyweight Champion F.I Winner 2012 MOTN vs Leonheart @ Wrestlution 7 'Don't worry about no one else, hows my hair look' - Tiberius Dupree 'Wipe you ass and go to bed' - Sensation to B17
Smythe D. Wonder Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 See your last post Tibby... That's exactly what I'm talking about... You're a champion... If you can squash someone... Squash them... But you saying you could've slapped on your auto-win sub-finisher even earlier proves my point even more... Which is why I don't respect even having them as finishers... I.E. Trevor has used the Dragon Sleeper literally for years... And once it became auto-win he stopped using it!!! We want to see people get absolutely destroyed if they don't play well... So what the top tier of players boils down to is guys that are great at the game... Then ME matches are worth watching because they're competitive by nature as well as they're real and look good cause the guys in the ring know their shit. Yes if I have you damaged and you kick out of a finisher I will beat you with pretty much any pin move... Cause that's the rules... If you don't kick out, you lose... And you might lose to a chain grapple pin... That's how it went down... Let's end the "let's put on a good show" shit... And let's start the "kick that guys ass" shit... I watch my soap opera wrestling on Mondays and Fridays... Thursdays we're trying to dominate!!! Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Pugh Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Let's end the "let's put on a good show" shit... And let's start the "kick that guys ass" shit... I watch my soap opera wrestling on Mondays and Fridays... Thursdays we're trying to dominate!!! If i wanna see someone beast the fuck out of someone, I'll watch one of the millions and millions of youtube videos of some punk kid rushing the fuck out of someone. If i want to watch an exciting match, I'll watch someone like Tibby. He is awesome at this game, but he is also entertaining to watch - that is, in my estimation at least, what a champion in OCW should be. 5 No.
Jookie Marley Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Mannnn fuck all that talk, i wit my hombre dupree. Plenty of times i try to put on a show nd then pay for that shit when i could of won. Its just certian fuckers that take this fed like is gamebattles nd not ocw entertainment. So if he chooses to make someone tap out i know its cause they would just hit some bullshit like a clothesline nd win. Ask djack hes done the shit to me plenty of times. Do you tibby. Not every champ squashes the competition, look at rick flair. He used to get handled nd still come out with the W.. 5 3x EX Division Champion 1x Hardcore Champion 1x Light Heavyweight Champion
Tiberius Dupree Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 See your last post Tibby... That's exactly what I'm talking about... You're a champion... If you can squash someone... Squash them... But you saying you could've slapped on your auto-win sub-finisher even earlier proves my point even more... Which is why I don't respect even having them as finishers... I.E. Trevor has used the Dragon Sleeper literally for years... And once it became auto-win he stopped using it!!! We want to see people get absolutely destroyed if they don't play well... So what the top tier of players boils down to is guys that are great at the game... Then ME matches are worth watching because they're competitive by nature as well as they're real and look good cause the guys in the ring know their shit. Yes if I have you damaged and you kick out of a finisher I will beat you with pretty much any pin move... Cause that's the rules... If you don't kick out, you lose... And you might lose to a chain grapple pin... That's how it went down... Let's end the "let's put on a good show" shit... And let's start the "kick that guys ass" shit... I watch my soap opera wrestling on Mondays and Fridays... Thursdays we're trying to dominate!!! I kick ass and make matches look good, sub finisher or not. You lost to me because you don't play, dont blame it on a sub fin. I dont care what happened whenever ago, this is NOW. 2 "You either die a hero or live long enough to become Nate Ortiz" - Drago Cesar "Let me make myself clear: you work for me. If I tell you to fight Blaine, you fight Blaine. Hell, if I tell you to fight a lion, you WILL fight a lion and still thank me afterwards for giving you a job." - Mr. Sensation
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