Dennis Black Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 In all seriousness Turmoil is pretty nice. At least from my standpoint it seems like a bunch of fresh faces trying to get noticed, which appeals to me for some reason. Be blessed with my review and take notes on my high level opinion. Going to try a grading scale, don’t be discouraged, it will be the most stern but fair grading scale ever crafted. Nightmare looks good and RPs well. I know its been touched upon in a few places, but I’m interested to see how you are able to carry a big scary monster in a world where you may very well lose or be embarrassed. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but it would be a testament to you as a player and/or character if you can make it work. I know I myself have sent some spooky monsters to the soup kitchen in some Hello Kitty tights, so good luck to you. As for the content, it’s like a said a solid, well written first(?) promo, and it sets up for your first(?) match. I don’t sense it setting up for anything but the immediate future, but you’re new so it shouldn’t be expected. I’m feeling a DECENT to STRONG 5 on this promo. It does what it needs to do, not much more. I haven’t had the pleasure of reading much of your stuff, Jackson, but I’ve always gotten the sense that you’re a big time character guy. It’s also good to see you promo-ing when not booked, it would be admirable for someone else but its to be expected for a show’s champion. This is literally the first Turmoil I’ve ever watched, so this problem might come up on a few occasions—I may be wrong on how things are and what people are, but I’ll do my best. This seems like the set up to more, then again you have a baby so participation is enough. Are you heel or baby? Couldn’t really get a sense from this. Im feeling a DECENT to STRONG 5. Once again, does what it’s supposed to do, hopefully theres more from you in the show with some direction. I assume Zhivago is an alt and doing the honors. Not much to say on him based on his entrance. I’ve seen some stills in the forum, but Nightmare definitely looks great in motion. Looks a heck of a lot like Matanza Cueto from Lucha Underground, but thats coming from the guy who debuted looking a heck of a lot like Muta. Don’t let your influence define you, and don’t be afraid to branch out and become your own thing in the future. Onto the match. This big monster starts the match chaining. One of my complaints about the game. Its bad real fake wrestling psychology, not that its your fault. FPR seems pretty on point. Nice little back and forth, Nightmares moves suits him pretty well. Reversal into the power bomb was neat. I think I misjudged nightmare’s size, if he really is Matanza he’s not tall, just wide. Seeing him in motion Joe looks alright as far as generic beard and goes. Nightmare has Joe pretty dead with five minutes to go. REF BUMP. I wish the ref would stay down long enough in these games for someone to capitalize. A lot of top rope action from these two heavyweights. Oh snap this alts trying to win! Solid finish, good debut match for Nightmare. STRONG 5 to LIGHT 6. Bonus points for having good FPR on your first match… if this really is your first match. Danny RP. Having some existential crisis. Solid character based promo. Out of every RP so far, I’ve got the best sense of your character based on this. Good intrigue, looking forward to see how it develops in the future. LIGHT 6 to DECENT 6. Good display of characters. Are you and your manager’s name Black Cox on purpose? (CONTINUED) Wasn't intentional. I just made her name from the announcer choices. But i'm not above running with it.
Cactus Gauge Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I'll take the criticism to heart and continue to work on it. I think I will open some options for myself with my next promo... I hope. 1 Want to be on the Watering Hole? Message Me. http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award2k16/bestnewsegment2016.png B17 - "Jordan Jax has Stone Cold moves. Rock taunts and Cena jorts. He's the wrestling equivalent of a hipster."
B-17 Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I'll take the criticism to heart and continue to work on it. I think I will open some options for myself with my next promo... I hope. Don't let it eat you. Advice is the greatest thing to take, but remember this. You can't please everyone, you never will. What Suda says carries a lot of weight, and he does offer great advice. Being a monster character is tough, it.....limits you in ways that means you have to highlight your strengths. Don't be discouraged, you are surrounded by ppl that will help you. 1 "Amatuer cheat hunter, Resident OCWFED historian, Lover of spreadsheets, data and HOI, MASTER OF THE GOKART" *I DONT KNOW HOW TO CHANGE MY PROFILE!*
Matsuda Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 B-17 is another good promo, I’m noticing a trend here. Turmoil might actually have a competitive quality level to Riot on that front. Unfortunately the problem with the B—show is that you have to be BETTER than the A-show to even get noticed. Keep that in mind. A pretty standard “destroying of vehicle promo— —THIS JUST IN— I have been informed that Joe is a main. Heres some constructive criticism, because he’s not a bad CAW, just a really boring one. I believe you’re capable of putting something good together, you just need some direction. You see, we have about 4-5 white biker looking guys, and I only know the names of one of em. If you want to get noticed, you need to stand out. I’m not saying you need a stupid gimmick like the Nightmare or anything, but everyone should be doing SOMETHING to stand out from the crowd, especially with the number of guys we have on the roster. I believe in you. Go watch a movie and get inspired. —BACK TO THE REVIEW— As I was saying, the destroying of a vehicle is a tired trope, however I like that I’m seeing your character seemingly unravel over this conflict. Also, you defined Jackson for me, so a bonus for that. Great control of the keyboard from someone who can’t even control his butthole on a podcast. I’m feeling a DECENT TO STRONG 6 on this one. Solid work. I don’t know who Seb is. Is his name just Seb? Make sure you introduce yourself to the audience at least once in an RP, you never know who’s reading for the first time and you always want to make a good impression. Nice to see Danny getting involved in a few different places. Thats a sign of a good character and that might even help me remember his name. More destruction of vehicles, your road agent really should have made sure you guys aren’t overlapping stories. DECENT to STRONG 4 on this one. I didn’t learn much from this promo, although it did set something up for the future, which everyone should always strive to do. Nothing worse than a promo that you get nothing out of. Now I’m PRETTY SURE Loki is an alt, just based on hearing it in the past, but I love his look. Nobody on the roster looks anything like him and you can tell exactly what he is from the moment he walks out. Good job to whoever’s alt he is. He’s definitely not basic. Sinister Scott also has a cool look… unfortunately he looks a LOT like Crossbones, at least in his intro. You might want to put a different flair on it to stand out. Onto the match, I believe this is Sinister’s first match? Those leather daddy tights make you kind of look like one of Nathan Carter’s boys. Loki seems to largely be in control in the beginning, dictating the pace. Sinister, I don’t get a lot of personality from your move-set or play style. By the looks of you, I assume you’re another spooky guy but what kind? For what reason? Loki is pretty dominant here at this point. Slit throat taunt and flex arm taunt? You’re sending mixed signals a bit. You got your butt kicked, kid, interested to see how you bounce back. LIGHT to DECENT 4 on the match. I didn’t get much out of it but the FPR was good enough. Post match promo, see this is what I’m talking about introducing yourself in every promo. With zero knowledge, I get exactly what this story is about two lines in. Good job. Good personality from everyone in the promo, I can easily figure out what and who everyone is supposed to be. Where is going? Hell if I know but I’m interested and entertained. LIGHT to DECENT 7 on this one. Favorite RP of the night so far, reminds me of a Dupree promo. Let this be a lesson to you guys that this is fake fake wrestling. You can kind of get away with whatever you want, don’t be afraid to get outside of that basic bubble. (CONTINUED) 4
S.Abbott Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 Cool will take that on-board for future. 1 http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award2k16/roleplayeroftheyear2016.png http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award%202k17/BreakOTY17.png
Big Ed Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 Ed want Malu, ug ug! Size on size! We need some interracial masses of meat up in here. Ed and Malu, Ed and KD!
Matsuda Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I had a feeling we’d be hearing more from Jackson again tonight. This time with a more complete looking promo. You guys are telling a good story between your promos, and I’m partial to the dueling promos through out the night school of story building. Like I said before its a good thing when I can jump right in and understand the characters and the story being told, so good job with that, although this muddied the waters a bit for me again with the alignments, not entirely sure who I’m rooting for without the full history, but thats not your faults. STRONG 6 to LIGHT 7 on this promo. Carlos as in Cruz? Same rules apply to you bucko! Not everyone is as smart as me so introduce yourself! Welcome back none the less. He must be on some good drugs because we retconned DJACK ever winning FI. This is an interesting take on an old character, and if handled properly it could make for some good storylines. But I’m not talking dumb cartoon split personality schizophrenia, I wanna see the real thing—how the medicine effects your personality, how you cope with it… really multi layered stuff. DECENT 6 for the return. Up next is some ladies action, in which I’m involved. I’m not going to comment much on storyline and stuff because like I said, I’m involved, but I will comment on a few things I noticed in my first Turmoil experience. For one Sophia plays the roll of “New Face of the Women’s Division” wonderfully, the CAW and moves all do a great job portraying this, which makes the story all the more interesting when she’s confronted by an OG like Casey, much to everyones surprise. Business it picking up. Make sure you take advantage of the legends you have coming through here. Learn from them and build on their backs. And do what every you can to try to work with them. They’ll legitimize you. I’ll also say now, going into this match, I assumed all you Turmoil people were garbage people on the sticks from the way Jay tries to protect you from everything. Sophia actually plays quite well, good clutch reversals and knows when to use them. Good example of how a champion should play. Not going to rate stuff I’m involved with. On to the next one, Gentleman Jack instantly stands out with his not butt rock theme that fits his laid back entrance motion nicely. I know he’s been RPing around so I’ll have to check out and learn what the guys about. Big Ed looks good, although he’s another bearded biker white guy. His advantage is that he’s huge, so he stands out. Kind of reminds me of a Kevin Nash type. I like the moves on Ed, but if I see him touch the top rope for anything I’m politicking him out of the business hoot. Decent back and fourth, everyone is out of there reversals pretty quickly. A lot of black and purple gear on this show. Its like Turmoil’s black and red. Big Ed seems to have taken control at this point, taking it to the outside. He seems at home there. This is quite the beating and we’ve got a ways to go. Aaand Ed finally puts him out of his misery. Whats this? Joe’s back? Surely two burley white guys are friends—oh never mind. Good editing here. Felt cohesive. Match was pretty one sided and went too long, so I’ll give it a LIGHT to DECENT 5. Post match was nice though, that segment gets a DECENT 6. 3
Matsuda Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 Up next is Vincent Winter’s promo. My first thought is the Wyatt Family, which is unfortunate because we already had a Wyatt Family rip off not too long ago (it might even still be going?). I will however say I love the name. The Orphanage is a cool name. But I implore you to skew much farther toward freak show/circus freaks because spooky cults are overdone, and you even said “Family”. And the whole “you guys are normal, we’re freaks” thing doesn’t work when you’ve got two unrelated spooky masked guys that showed up earlier in the show. Too much unrelated spooky and unrelated bikers. Mind the landscape, branch out accordingly, and PLEASE mind your recent history! You’re a solid enough promo though, and I still like the Orphanage name, just don’t fall into a lame cliche. DECENT 5 on this one. Short promo from Joe here. I guess he’s mad about getting slammed and losing tonight but that’s all I get from him character wise. I wan’t more out of him. STRONG 3 Oh good, I hope to learn more about Gentleman Jack now. He’s funny for one, and I like the relationship between him and Barry. There’s something to be said about a guy who can lose as bad as he lost and still come out on top from a character standpoint. This skill is going to serve you really well, don’t get discouraged in losses, let it affect your character. Grow and become more interesting like Jack here. Good promo. LIGHT to DECENT 7 Up next is Black vs White. Ain’t that the truth. From moment one I’m very impressed with Dennis’ presentation, a nice little intro video takes a lot more effort than it seems and it doesn’t go unnoticed. As far as generic vanilla midgets go, Dennis is the full package, great look, presentation, a good promo. I don’t really fully understand his character or motivations from just one night, but I’m impressed none the less. Don’t get me wrong Danny, you’re still about three leagues lower than me, but I will say this show has put you on my short list of “guys who are maybe worthy of working with me eventually possibly”. Congratulations. (I’ve watched your intro three times now, probably because it’s my entrance.) Wait is Black a White guy and White a Black Guy? Naw he looks arab. The look is alright, not much to it. I don’t really get what your character is at first glance in the least, unfortunately. If theres one thing I’ve learned about the business its to “sell for the cheap seats”. That applies to everything, including your look. The holes in Danny’s tights are questionable. Who wants to see a man’s shiny ass IT bands? Match seems pretty even, although Danny pulls ahead with that coup de gras. Danny has a better understanding of spacing than Dusty. OH now I get it, you’re just Finn Balor! Boy is trying to hit a finisher in the late game to put someone away while maintaining FPR tough or what?? Dennis has got him dead to rights and two damage shades different but between waiting for a FPR clean moment, the opponent to have no reversals, and having enough stamina to do it its a nightmare. Match was fine, nothing particularly special either way DECENT to STRONG 5. There you go, Sebastion Abbot! Now I know who you are. Good enough set up for a match next week. DECENT to STRONG 5. 2
Gentleman Jack Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 So since the OCW Executive Committee wants everyone, rookies included. discussing things more I thought I'd throw in my two cents. I'll focus more on writing bc, lets be honest here, I can barely lace my figurative boots. Please know I understand the fact that I'm greener than green and mean no disrespect. Nightmare Cold Opener: Very cool way to open the show, already a fan of the man that clearly sexually assaults women in porta potties at slipknot concerts. Big gamble on the monster bit but I bet you can take the guy anywhere even if the w's don't always fall your way. Joe vs Nightmare: Poor Joe. He's got Ed all up in his head and Nightmare took advantage. Seriously Joe, you need friends. Or Jesus. But probably just friends. Either way I'm interested in your story and Nightmare looks good. That's a success in my book. Dennis and Trance Promo / B-17 and Jackson / I'm a Dennis mark, sue me. He puts his opponents over and makes them look like a million bucks. No offense to B-17 and Jackson but I'm so much more invested in Dennis and Trance. In all fairness, I don't know the full backstory of B and Jackson so there's a real good chance it's my own fault I'm not as into it. Seb: You put your stache on the line. Mad respect sir. Loki / The Sinister One: I want more Loki and Axton in my life. I don't understand it yet but I want more. And I smoke way to much weed so don't take my not understanding personally. As for Scott, write something. You just look like Nightmare's wing man at rape-apoolza 2016. Write something and tell me who you are. Jackson Promo: I care more now. That's why he's a good champ. Wtf am I going to say to the champ? Thanks for letting me stand in your ring from time to time. Carlos: Let's eat taco bowls and talk about those voices in your head. I can so help. Casey Paine / Sophia Match: Oh shit nightmare, that chick you sexually assaulted in the porta potty is back and she looks freaking pissed bro. Casey looks like walking Hep C and I want to know everything! Sophia is the queen of turmoil and I'm not going to be the shmuck to start bad mouthing her. I'm super impressed with the women's division I'm assuming she built. Big Ed / Me Huge thanks to Ed for a fun match! He physically and emotionally assaulted me and I loved every second of it. I hate the biker thing but I'm clearly a fan. I hope you and Joe have a brawl. Watch this guy folks, he's going places. As for me, I suck on the sticks but I'll get there and am having a blast! The Orphanage aka Anthropomorphic Hot Topic: This is going to go either super freaking awesomely well or like a wet fart. Are you going to be the brood, the oddities, or something fun and new? I dug the first chapter though so let's see! It Don't Matter If You're Black or White: Dennis on the rebound, rookie kept it close with the tv champ. If you have major problems with this than I don't know what to tell ya. But again I'm a Dennis mark so my opinion is biased. White took the loss in stride, look forward to his next booking and getting into the character. Malu vs Kass: No words from either man in the main event? Did I miss something? That makes me sad. Purge: So the close of Turmoil is a Riot story line? Shenanigans! Hope something fun comes of this. Closing thoughts: Dug the show a ton until the end. I wasn't invested with the savage and the vampire but i'm a word whore so please don't hate me for it. Didn't like a Riot story closing Turmoil but I assume thats the point so well played. Otherwise I think it's a fun time to be here. I see lots of fun toys on the roster and look forward to playing with them all. Its going to be a fun summer! 5 http://i.imgur.com/FPLnAHN.jpg http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award2k16/pushingthelimit.png
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