On Deadly Ground (2024)

[Pugh]

OnDeadlyGroundReview. I’m going to do it in parts because I’m jumping in and out of the show and it works better for me this way. Thanks

 

Spider
Spider has literally been doing this same schtick for 100 years. It is tired, but so am I, so I don’t have a lot more to say.

 

Ashley vs Emp S-Cup Final. **
We’ve discussed this on discord over and over. Bad behaviour from a supposed vet. Emp should’ve put her fucking hands up but when she did, she was curtailed by moonwalking the likes of which Toronto’s least favourite son SDW would’ve said was “too much”. And he fucking loved moonwalking. Soured the otherwise fairly decent tournament. Emp spent a lot of time making it feel big only to have the rug pulled out. For. Shame.

 

Cody Hagen
I’m glad we got a Cody promo that wasn’t a rundown of Heather’s rise and fall, but he seems to have started writing his memoirs instead. Hopefully now he’s not suspended anymore, we’ll get some good content from him, but at the moment I read these promos with a grimace on my face. They’re just not wrestling promos. They could be, with some tweaks, but they ain’t right now. Maybe get a feud going any there might be some structure, idk.

 

Jynx vs Scotty Hype

Good effort for a first go - didn't dig the song, but that's personal preference. Would've had this be a shade shorter, there's lots of stuff you could've cut out of this and it still would've made sense... but as a first stab, can't hate on it too much. Gotta start somewhere.

 

[Pugh]

Jynx vs Scooty X ***

I don't know if I'll ever get onboard with Jynx's music. Turrble. But his vibe is fun, so it is what it is. Didn't like the attire, felt a little bit too far from his usual stuff, but it is what it is. Scooty's pyro is fucking tragic. UNDESERVED. Scotty really making his PPV debut this late is wild. Attire is ok, although Scotty is a dork. Looking past the FPR and the background noise issues, we had plenty of back and forth and that was pretty good to me. Didn't vibe with the match super hard, but nothing really offensive. 

 

Evil Sue

Damn "I'm gonna speak really slowly for the dumb foreigner". Completing the heel turn, would've liked to have some of the angles mixed up a little because I got bored of watching the text (i have a short attention span sue me... Sue. Me.) but it's whatever. Job done, heel turned.

 

Tag Hype video.

Fucking hate this song for a hype video. So overdone, but whatever. I wish it would've told more of a story, and I wish it would've been a bit more HYPE. It wasn't, it was whatever, but least it exists.

 

Tag Title Match ***½

Just... I don't get it. I know the reasoning is "OCW should be fun" but at least two of these teams have been engaged in a blood feud now they're texting to match outfits before the match (outfits of wrestlers that don't exist in OCW-world mind you). RIP immersion. Daft. Mass Effect, put some crowd noise on your entrance. Some decent work with the intros. Lots of chaos, some decent team work isolation. I would've loved this match to have ended when Idiots cleared the ring and the other two teams actually did their feud shit - it made all the sense in the world. Another one of those matches where my interest drifted just because there's too much going on, but that's a personal preference, I get it. I'm glad we finally got Ryvaughn and Chance getting at each other, it was threatened and never finished off a few weeks back. The more this match went on, the more it felt like a bad idea. I understand why the build was so haphazard now - they decided this match was happening weeks ago and then tried to work backwards to get to it. It's kinda a shame the result is what it is - it feels as though Derek has been a passenger for the whole feud, so I would've liked one of the fully engaged teams to come away with the W here. Didn't though. Very weird decision to have Ryvaughn get medical attention when we've just crowned new tag champions - spotlight should've been on them, but it wasn't. Could've easily swapped those two clips round and it would've made more sense, and not taken the shine. The post match was unhinged. Again - let the fucking champs get their shine, this could've been on weekly shows.

 

Heather/Blaine Melodrama

RP'er of the year takes aim at Blaine, and they're setting something up for THE FUTURE. Alright structurally, but not super exciting. Mechanically gets the feud moving

 

Karmine

Karmine is here and he's ready to FIGHT. Telos don't know nothing about hardship - and Karmine is sick of the self righteousness. Get out here Telos... oh no its no Telos. Weirdly, this A7X song has been used in OCW before, although there was much more reaction when that happened. Please please please, just download some crowd noise for your entrances. Omen really loves tables doesn't he? More DNS hijinx. I hope Karmine isn't dead.

 

Reese vs C-Note ***½

This match had kinda a strange build, it wasn't bad but I'm not super pleased to be sitting down to watch it. Felt a little flat, because C-Note's promos were a bit rambly in places. Always interesting to see what version of C-Note we're getting, different one than I had on my bingo card. Anyway, Mark Reese is out and he's desperate to scorch my retinas with some of the more extreme colours I've ever seen in OCW. Good face stuff though. it felt like C-Note was broken in half very quickly, even though he didn't seem to take a lot of damage. Reese is a monster. C-Note is tossing Reese around like his chonk is inflatable. It feels like Reese is going to win this, but we've still got 4 minutes to go, so pull it out C-Note. C-Note pulling it out! Sig, knee, kicks the fuck out of Reese's nonsense. When C-Note popped the buckle cover off, i'd have liked to have seen something ROTTEN, but nah, just brought us to the end. Flojo's dumb move (for now). Last minute was hot, would've liked a touch more drama but its a good win. Reese can't catch a break.

 

Bash and MDD

Bash looks a bit more like a star now. I'm glad. He's left cheeto dust Bash firmly in the past with super Mario Bash. Probably didn't need the video honestly, because we rolled straight into the promo, but anyways. I really like the cult leader vibes of this. MD is starting to question things, Bash is talking to him like a child. DNS explosion on the horizon? Probably not but this drunk bastard might be outta here.

 

Owen vs Sheldon Hype

OK, starting with something. If you're gonna have captions on the screen, you need to have them for the words of the promo or the lyrics, you're asking the viewer to read 2 things simultaneously otherwise, and that's genuinely impossible. It was well put together, but I found it a bit rambly. Sheldon not having the nuts to tell sanctum was mentioned more than once, we get it, don't hammer home the same point. I also would've liked some reverb on the voices or something. It sounded like two fellas chatting on a twitch stream, rather than a HYPE FEST to get people into the match. Anyway, least it exists.

 

Owen vs Sheldon Int Title ***¾

Shelly should be out second as Champion please and thank you. I also wish he had a proper tron and he wasn't wearing Dane Xavier's old jacket, but it is what it is. Owen's intro bores the life out of me, I would love the lights to just go dead and then "Mat Enforcer" and then suddenly here he is with some bigtime crowd noise. I get you're going for atmosphere but I don't think it hits right. It needs tweaks to get the vibe you're clearly after. Oh good we're actually getting the match this time, good start. I hope Shelly doesn't choke. He's looked shaky in the last few weeks. Lots of counters back and forth and some nice technicals. It felt as though they knew each other really well, which is great from a story POV.  I would've loved if Owen would've carried on with the countout spot, broke the count, got back out, made Sheldon chase him. Just like that. Shelly is still looking shaky. Again, wish the ending wasn't so abrupt but match was pretty good overall.

 

GnG promo

Generic as fuck, but least Derek was in this one.  No scene setting, no nothing. Just some meh words about being a fighting champion. OK cool.

 

Horse vs Spider Hype

NOT HYPE ENOUGH. Another rambly one. Like, it kinda told the story, but wrong song choice for me. Everything seems really downbeat and meh tonight. We can do better. We know how to do better! Edit it tighter, get a bit of momentum going in it and it'd make people wanna watch!

 

Horse vs Spider ***½

AZN BEETSTICK MATCH. Spider almost had aura in his entrance. He didn't but he almost did. I was pleased he had the mask on, it's the only palatable version of Spider. It's hilarious they didn't even have to clear the red smoke between entrances. Really enjoyed it. I looked at the match length on this and thought "how the fuck did Spider spin it out this long" and now I know. The key is the longest entrances in the world. Horse is over. He's a silly bitch but he's over. Started exactly like I was expecting, Spider can't find his reverse button. Horse is a monster and this is the happiest I've been this whole show. Wish he would've died on the steps, Greg ruining our vibe. Fucking cunt. 2 stomps, ALL SHE WROTE. WHO PUT THIS IDIOT IN THE HALL OF FAME?!?!  Jay's hopeful "he might just do it" was grand. Damn spider got a second wind, but Blacksmith doing what he does. World Championship incoming.

 

Owen

Owen time traveling to a 1980s sitcom where people answer their landline telephone by saying "Fraser Residence". Creative use of the allegedly restrictive Morrison Method here as Owen does lots of good stuff in the bold bits. Excellent. I always don't like past tense, but it's fine here as it's consistent. Although it's still happening now, not in the past, despite my silly joke at the start!

 

KassCUM vs Storm Boyz ****

Marriage of convenience time as Kass and Wrex turn up ready to fucking BRAWL. I hope that pyro catches the stupid water man on fire one of these days. Jake using Myriad properly made me happy. High quality start, Wrex is a monster, H2O stinks, some delightful tagging. Quartz beaning Kass and Wrex taking the chance was great, enjoyed it. Kass popping in with the coldest tag in OCW history. Jay's echo is something I invented and I want paying when he does it. Fucking stick of it. H2O is so smarmy, so easy to hate. Weirdly H2O is not losing his head against Kass, IDK why. I want to see him suffer. Wrex is a monster, I love watching him. His moveset is great, he works it really well. Can't be mad at a Wrex match ever. Would've loved a countout finish when they were all going wild on the outside. Wrex vs H2O portion where they're throwing finishers was wild, Kass stealing one. Great end to the match. Really fun. The "we hate each other" dynamic is great.

 

Marisa

Doesn't serve a match, it's ok to just say nothing if you ain't got nothing to say...

 

Aisu vs B17 Hype.

MORE SLOW MUSIC. FUCK SAKE. I would've cut the anni match much quicker, and focused more on Aisu vs B17, Doc isn't part of this! It picked up at the end, so I'm not mad at it, cutting in Jake losing his shit was great, but then... flat again. These are HYPE packages. HYPE! Watch some WWE ones, a variety of different ones, and see how to HYPE shit.

 

Aisu vs B17 ****½  

Mean Aisu entrance was fun. More of that red smoke BROTHER! Must be the only colour they sell north of the border. Crowd noise! JUST GIVE ME CROWD NOISE. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. There was more than a small part of me that thought B17 was about to walk out to Toxic by Britney Spears. Completely possible given his penchant for Zombie. Aura here from both though, still no fucking crowd noise to speak of. Never strap an injury BROTHER! Not against Aisu! Counters, high level stuff, great movesets on both. Guess this is why they're at the top of the card. B explosive, Aisu trying to slow shit down but he ain't managing it yet. The targeting of the arms is probably the first dose of WRESTLING STORYTELLING we've had in the matches tonight (yes sometimes its the wrong arm, but sometimes its not). The build was doodoo pampers but I'm really enjoying the blow off. B17 dominating in the end here and AISU is on his way out. Aisu clicking into french 5 sta... whatever its called when AIsu does it territory. Great match. Aisu bad loser. Why is nobody coming out to help? Ripping and tearing! YES, WE HAVE CROWD REACTIONS NOW. THANK FUCK. Extra half star.

 

Always Sunny in Scotia Bank

We get it, you've seen always sunny. Geez. Keeps the stuff with Emp and Jay rumbling but geez and crackers can we at least have a different sitcom odd couple reference?

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr.Sensation]

23 hours ago, Owen said:

EMP, Heather, Blaine

 

Emp traps Heather and Heather and Blaine talk at each other. This didn't feel like a real conversation to me. It felt like two people saying lines at each other. Maybe it's because Blaine and Heather are similarly trying to be two tough, stubborn characters but for people having a relationship that goes back it felt like they just wanted to say their piece and not listen to what the other was saying.

 

JCS/EMP RP
This felt weird to read. It wasn't that long ago that Sensation was tricked by EMP into marrying. Now he's saving her from drowning and calling her snookums. I'll keep my mind open, the RP gave us a feeling that EMP wasn't reacting well to losing. The juxtaposition of EMP complaining about being the best woman in the "history of this sexist company" to the person she has maligned for being bigoted and sexist is odd. Through the lens of a relationship where EMP and Sensation appear to be getting on and it isn't a ruse or there isn't exposition letting the audience know that not everything is as it seems feels like this has been rushed.

 

 

 

 

The first RP was KAMEYO and Blaine, EMP had Kameyo as her proxy while her stupid life is spiraling.

 

On 2nd RP, see Paragraph, 2 section 3 of the Roleplay 2 weeks ago..... I kid,
That being said there was also a couples therapy session that didn't go according to plan for JCS. Showing that EMP is manipulative and also a loon.The pet names is a thing from the press conference and hell in general it's not seen as a term of affection rather than just a connotation.

 

EMP is totally not reacting well to losing, EMP has pretty much spent most of career as unstable, you can see 3 or 4 examples posted previously I wont bore you with a history lesson. EMP is spiraling because she didn't get her prize and as such she does what she is known for and that's being violent. JCS realizes that and is trying to defuse the situation to prevent (damage / anarchy) from a known lunatic. In doing so a moment was sort of shared.  You don't do the "There There Pat on the head" to your wife you do that to like a child "Better luck next time sport" On top of more footage for the "Reality Show"

On a side note I'm not gonna bloviate on exposition you either get it or you don't (And if you don't thats ok) But that's more or less what was trying to be conveyed, Chaos, Deescalation,  shit for the reality shoe, etc.

[El Parca]

He’s 100% lying. Dudes starting to fall for the psycho girl (cause let’s be honest they’re THE BEST) and he’s attracted to controlled chaos because he runs OCW. And OCW is a fucking chaotic landscape so EMP fits his type (I’m definitely chatting shit but I like this narrative!) When he slips up and she takes the company over it’s gonna be actually insane. 

[El Parca]

I’m just gonna hit some notes on the matches since I’ve had some time since the podcast & watching that Y’know, I just wanna say. 
 

EMP vs. Ashley (S-Cup Finals)

 

The fpr issues aside I think this match goes to show how OCW can be so brutal at times. Emp dominated this tournament and in my eyes this was her tournament to win and her crowning moment to become the first ever Women’s Pride Champion. To see her in this match get dog walked is something I genuinely wasn’t expecting. Behind the curtain, I don’t think Emp plays very much but I also think Ashley doesnt either. The nature of the beast with these games and at times it does give you these conclusions where mans I wish we got the one we actually wanted to see. No disrespect to Ashley, that was a performance you put on, once again regardless of the FPR stuff. They were cruising in this match and just locked in when they had too so congrats to them. I will reiterate though, Emp always makes her matches / stories feel important. Both of these handlers have been in OCW for a good amount of time now, while I will say yes not having a hype package for every match DID help those that did, this one absolutely should have had one and it is not solely on Emp. 
 

JynX vs. Scotty X

 

This is a moment where both guys should feel proud of themselves. You made it onto an actual PPV and not an Ambition PPV, so take this in stride and love it while you can. Both guys still in my eyes need work with how they go about stuff and how they move forward in the future. JynX shows promise but I’m still a little confused / curious to see how he exactly unfolds more of his character in the fed as time passes on. I’m curious to also see where Scotty goes from here. You may have lost the match but don’t let that define you so hopefully he doesn’t just disappear after losing and can turn this into an even bigger positive. 
 

Tag TLC Match

 

Sometimes it’s a home run and sometimes it’s a miss. For the general consensus it seems to be a miss, and that’s okay. Better to try and not love the result than not try at all and always wonder if it would’ve worked. I’m extremely proud of RyVaughn & Devon with this feud. Mass Effect being a consistent presence in the tag division that MANY people need to take a look at. This is how you build a team, build character, and don’t get lost in the shuffle. Devon is easily tied for most promising rookie out of this bunch of rookies. RyVaughn is a star in the making (if he lives to see the ring again) so they both should be extremely proud of themselves for what they’ve been doing. Future Idiots as well, Jordan Trance while at times plays a background character to John has found himself more in FI as has John even though he makes some extremely questionable decisions at times. Both these dudes are committed to each other (perhaps) and the tag division. They had a very good run, fought their asses off and went down with a god damn war. While some folks will have comments on it and that’s fair, I’m very happy with how this feud went and just the overall fun we had in it. So massive pat on the back to all the guys involved in it. 
 

C-Note vs. Mark Reese

 

I really want C-Note to be successful. While the guy goes way too many directions character wise for my liking I can tell he wants to be higher up on the card and wants to prove that to people. Something that I always harp on and C-Note specifically has had comments made about is his lack of pulling the trigger. We seen it at Anni 19 and we saw it here as well. You really gotta just fucking go for it at times especially when you have 2-3 fins & a signature. Yes you won from a normal move which is wild but I’d have preferred seeing you make a statement victory with a move that matters of yours. Reese has zero to be ashamed of in this performance, for an out of his prime dude? He took C-Note to the absolute limit which goes to show if he just takes some time off (almost like we got a break coming up) and focuses on himself and trains? S19 could be the season where he finally accomplishes his true goal. 
 

OWEN vs. Sheldon Tremblay (International Championship)

 

A true coming out party for OWEN and a massive disappointment for Sheldon.  Both guys we’ve seen can be 50/50 when it comes to singles matches especially big singles matches. This was a match where OWEN was in a must win situation imo. After the massacre at Anni 19 he could not allow Sheldon to come in here and make it look easy. OWEN did just that and showed everyone that tonight he was the better man and he is the true International Champion. While it’s heartbreaking to see Sheldon lose the title I am excited to see where he goes from here because he has many paths that he can go down attitude wise. I don’t doubt this feud is far from over so I’m keeping a close eye on both guys. 
 

I'm going to bed now I’ll do the other half of the matches tomorrow then touch on the segments as well. 

[Marisa Welch]

Hmm let’s see what OPINIONS I have..  still have to read the werdz, but here is my review of the visuals.. 
 

-Would’ve loved to see an opening hype for the show, but it’s end of season, people are busy, transitional time with the new release, so I get it. 
 

Ashley vs. Emp: **

High stakes match.  Was fitting to open the show. Should’ve def had some kind of hype package.  Was there no hype because of how the match played out?  Hmm.  Ashley should’ve had a special PPV attire.  This was a big deal, history making bout.  Really liked Emp’s attire, great fits always.  Expected a more competitive match.  Not sure if the moonwalking would’ve even changed the outcome, but didn’t need to be done though.  Seen some stuff on discord and just to pull back the curtain I was critiqued after a match with one of the handlers in this match when fpr wasn’t even broken so it would be nice for them to be able to take accountability/feedback on fpr breaks when they obviously broke them during this match.   Don’t need to die on this hill, just acknowledge and move on.  All in all congrats to Ashley.  I’m sure she will do great things with the new title. 

 

Jynx vs. Scotty X: ***½

Enjoyed the hype vid.  Glad to see these 2 on a PPV.  They’re committed and passionate about OCW.  Def hold it down on the Xbox side of things.  Tough competitors.  See big things in their future.  Solid.  Nice gears.  If Scotty really doesn’t have a face texture, I would love for him to have one for season 19. 

 

-Dark Sue: 

I think Sue can be a dominant heel.  A force in the women’s division.  I feel like it’s a good step to get away from the jolly, happy go lucky bumpkin.  At least for a little while.  Curious as to how this will affect her marriage.  

 

TLC Tag Championship: ***

For the hype I personally would’ve gone with a different song choice.  I prefer songs that aren’t mainstream unless they’re real old or are a PERFECT fit.  We had a few other options on the table, but we ran out of time.  Thanks for putting that together JC.  I think the gist of the feud was gotten by the clips he chose and it wasn’t drawn out.  Dressing up as Christian would not be a choice I would make lol, but the majority consensus was to pay homage to those wrestlers and I’m a team player so that’s that.  When I saw all of our gears together I actually really liked it.  For the sake of sports entertainment, we don’t have to be super critical all the damn time.  In regards to match..Playing the match, it felt a mess to me, especially being glitched and all.  But watching back I was highly entertained.  Had a lot of funny and brutal moments.  Was super long, too long, but that’s the game and match type.  Ladders should not fall just from sliding into the ring.  Hopefully that’s something that will be fixed in the game.  Kudos to all involved for building a visible, present feud with different variables/layers.  The Future Idiots didn’t have to get down in the gutter with ME and GNG as they were the champions and they’re baby faces and the feud wasn’t as personal to them.  Although they def stepped in when important.  When you have 6 people feuding, there are bound to be certain dynamics more prevalent than others.  Especially when a valet/manager is involved as well.  Happy for G&G and congrats to them.  I basically died during the match and NOTICEABLY-SO, so it was appropriate for the stretcher to get down there and take me out ASAP.  Made perfect sense.  We all wanted that in there.  Also Grit & Glory still got their celebration right after with a twist of John.  I don’t think it took away from the champions at all, especially as they had a celebratory promo later in the show also.  Not everything has to be cookie-cutter and anything decided was decided by us all.  Proud of you boys.  

 

-Karmine/Omen:  

I love how violent this show was.  Perfect for the name of it.  I was happy to see Omen stepping up and making a statement.  He’s just really been the muscle of DNS in the background.  Could now be his time?  I expect very entertaining stuff to come from these two.  Great segment.  

 

C-Note vs. Reese: *** 

I agree with some that not every match needs a hype package.  IRL not every match on a PPV would have a hype package so that is whatever to me.  It makes the matches that NEED a hype vid seem that much more big.  Solid match from 2 solid handlers.  Liked the new attire.  Bummer that this game glitches attires at times.  Noticed it in a couple matches.  Takes away from the product and immersion.  C-Note is a menace.  He is in the forefront, but is a silent killer at the same time.  I just hope he hasn’t driven Mark Reese out of the business.  C-Note will have his day!  

 

-Bash/MDD

Tension amongst DNS.  Adding layers.  Could DNS implode!?  Is Bash going to do what he did to Samsin to Mad Dawg!?  Don’t go to the server farm Dawg!  Yikes.  Curious to see how this plays out.

 

Owen vs. Sheldon: ***

Liam is mvp of hype packages.  The lyrics on screen weren’t distracting to me, I like when different styles are done.  Very well executed per usual.  The match was one of the shorter ones of the night.  Could’ve gone either way.  Expected more of a fight from Sheldon, but Owen was a man on a mission.  Well played.  Congrats Owen on your new International Championship.  I would also like to see this story continue between these two.  The possibilities!  Very entertained.  

 

-Bobbi G&G 

Scene didn’t need to be set, it was obviously a quick backstage promo of a woman building up her man, her friend, her team.  That’s what managers do.  Super simple, something light.  Tried the AI image stuff, meh about it as well.  Will refrain from it.  

 

Blacksmith vs. Illuminati: **1/2

Hype video was good and the song was perfect.  Enjoyed that.  Match was pretty good.  Entrances were great.  Really really liked Ryu’s.  Song, visuals, motion went so good.  Just needed a tron.  Like how all these Blacksmith matches are dangerous.

 

Perfect Storm vs. KasScum: ***

Perfect Storm entrance production is always superb.  Bravo.  Not quite  sure tbh why Kass & Wrex were teaming together here.  Memory is bad at times though, so.  Surprised PS didn’t get the W.  Solid contest.  

 

-Marisa is Barb Wire: Reloaded & Uncensored 

It’s obvious that Pamela Anderson is Marisa’s spirit animal.  This movie with Risa was announced towards the end of season 17.  In response to an earlier critique… not everything has to build towards a match, it’s called character development.  With that said however, this will all play into the future.  And Marisa always has something to say and she’ll say it.  Better yet she’ll show it.  Now that’s is getting closer to summer, promotion for her movie will be ramping up.  Stay tuned.  Buckle up.  Enjoy the ride.

 

B17 vs Aisu: ***¾

Very nice hype music vid, good length.  The right man won.  Get it Daddy!  Dark Aisu is a good character.  Dirty ass heel.  Hard fought victory.  Congrats on retaining B.  Gears poppin’.  

 

Women’s Championship Triple: ***

Hype was great.  The Brian Williams voice over was A1.  Xena Joanna, all business Shianne, and boujee Deborah.  Entertaining match.  Very quick.  Worked out though since we got a cash in at the end.  Big Deborah is so huge.  She should have to fight with one arm tied behind her back.  Never expected Flojo to cash in early.  Good surprise and nice fit.  I thought for sure Flo would bag the title but that didn’t happen.  Deb is one perseverant beast.  Dare I say the most dominant women’s champ OCW has ever seen?  She is clearing the entire division.  Grr!  

 

-Mark Reese Promo: 

To the point, nice character development.  I feel bad for this man.  Hugs!  

 

Maxx vs. Parca: ****

We have some really good producers here!  This hype was legit!  These two are a great match-up.  Great match (Bolek voice <3) as expected from them.  Was anyone’s game here.  Congrats Maxx!  Fire attires.  Nice way to end the show.  Round of applause.  Excited for season 19!

 

*Thanks to those on the post show podcast for your kind words.  Never goes unnoticed and I appreciate all of you.  Means a lot.

 

*Overall I gave this show a B+.  Show was an exceptional way to end season 18.  Hats off to everyone involved.

 

“No one can whistle a symphony.  It takes a

whole orchestra to play it.”

[Belle]

2 hours ago, Marisa Welch said:

Seen some stuff on discord and just to pull back the curtain I was critiqued after a match with one of the handlers in this match when fpr wasn’t even broken so it would be nice for them to be able to take accountability/feedback on fpr breaks when they obviously broke them during this match.

ooh honey, spill the tea! 
wow miss copy & paste, i've been letting u slide but u really pushed my buttons here. 
for a five foot five man with child bearing hips u sure have A LOT of audacity to call out people. should we collectively start calling u out for creating characters whose only personality trait is "bends over backwards for the male gaze"?
didn't know sore losers came with a built-in hypocrisy filter. is someone still a bit salty they couldn't snatch a spot in the finals despite their multiple thirst trap attempts? maybe u should spend less time critiquing and attacking someone who's already down & more time practicing how not to be a thirsty mess in ur own matches. maybe then they'll be watchable without needing eye bleach, just sayin.  

[Pugh]

15 minutes ago, Belle said:

ooh honey, spill the tea! 
wow miss copy & paste, i've been letting u slide but u really pushed my buttons here. 
for a five foot five man with child bearing hips u sure have A LOT of audacity to call out people. should we collectively start calling u out for creating characters whose only personality trait is "bends over backwards for the male gaze"?
didn't know sore losers came with a built-in hypocrisy filter. is someone still a bit salty they couldn't snatch a spot in the finals despite their multiple thirst trap attempts? maybe u should spend less time critiquing and attacking someone who's already down & more time practicing how not to be a thirsty mess in ur own matches. maybe then they'll be watchable without needing eye bleach, just sayin.  

calling out egregious FPR breaks is not the same as calling out characters you don’t like. Just floating that as an idea.

[El Parca]

This weirdo white knight approach and being outright crude & mean is not it whatsoever. There’s disagreeing to a point but then there’s just being an outright asshole. Dude is calling it how it is and just trying to attack someone who lets be honest, very few people are on his level with work and creativity? You are gonna win that one pumpkin. Anyways, maybe put that energy into more positive and decent ventures + maybe help your friend (who’s been here 6 or so years) to learn fpr and maybe he won’t have rampant comments on how he soured a very hyped / history filled tournament finals match.  

[Belle]

4 minutes ago, El Parca said:

This weirdo white knight approach and being outright crude & mean is not it whatsoever. There’s disagreeing to a point but then there’s just being an outright asshole. Dude is calling it how it is and just trying to attack someone who lets be honest, very few people are on his level with work and creativity? You are gonna win that one pumpkin. Anyways, maybe put that energy into more positive and decent ventures + maybe help your friend (who’s been here 6 or so years) to learn fpr and maybe he won’t have rampant comments on how he soured a very hyped / history filled tournament finals match.  

multiple minions ganging up. let's hold the applause for the playground bullies. we don't all enjoy kicking people while they're down, you know. besides, there's a difference between a good tussle and a straight-up pile-on. 

 

and the fact u are SO pressed about something that's not even ur business, kind of says something like maybe u need to get a hobby or two or maybe u just need to learn it's unnecessary to say something like this when u have no idea what the reality is. some of y'all have no life outside of this and it shows. get well soon.