Turmoil 336 "R2G Go Home Show"

[Mr.Sensation]

GO HOME BABY

[B-17]

Just my two cents.  If you want to have a match of the night or match of the year, the match needs to end appropriately. Sudden death can exist for whatever move you wish it to exist for but it is such a ugh feeling when a good match ends in a such a manner. 

 

My personal interpretation is that sudden death means that a top rope superplex, or a diving elbow drop, or just some impactful move ends it.  Not a regular move will be seen multiple times throughout the show. 

 

But, just my two cents.  

[Pugh]

1 hour ago, B-17 said:

Just my two cents.  If you want to have a match of the night or match of the year, the match needs to end appropriately. Sudden death can exist for whatever move you wish it to exist for but it is such a ugh feeling when a good match ends in a such a manner. 

 

My personal interpretation is that sudden death means that a top rope superplex, or a diving elbow drop, or just some impactful move ends it.  Not a regular move will be seen multiple times throughout the show. 

 

But, just my two cents.  

You’ve spelled amateur wrong in your signature so this opinion ain’t worth two cents.

[John Carter]

6 hours ago, B-17 said:

Just my two cents.  If you want to have a match of the night or match of the year, the match needs to end appropriately. Sudden death can exist for whatever move you wish it to exist for but it is such a ugh feeling when a good match ends in a such a manner. 

 

My personal interpretation is that sudden death means that a top rope superplex, or a diving elbow drop, or just some impactful move ends it.  Not a regular move will be seen multiple times throughout the show. 

 

But, just my two cents.  

100% agree unless it’s a roll up in the right situation. I think people need to understand that more cause it’s led to some weird finishes this year. To me winning off a regular move is like winning off a regular submission and people typically hate that shit. 

[B-17]

5 hours ago, Pugh said:

You’ve spelled amateur wrong in your signature so this opinion ain’t worth two cents.

Jay made my signature. You think I have any clue how to change it? 

[Kassidy Hayes]

why does B17 have dcaws staff usertitle? he isnt DCAWS

[Marisa Welch]

So let the person kickout or don’t go for a pin after a certain point off a regular move?

[B-17]

19 minutes ago, Marisa Welch said:

So let the person kickout or don’t go for a pin after a certain point off a regular move?

 

I can speak on how I act with those moments. I have let people out of late pins, and I understand that would make people say that it is sudden death and that should not happen, but I would force a kickout immediately after a pin to sell a chop or a typical move to sell that the person still has a lot less and add the flavor. But that's only one example. 

 

There comes a certain point in the match where I ask myself if I am willing to win with this move. If the answer is no, I don't leave it up to the other person to decide. 

 

Chop=forced kickout at zero. 

I haven't hit a finisher and gone for a pin early in the match, and they really should kick out= let out.

Land an elbow drop? You'd better kick out, because I consider this a bit of a move. 

 

Only you can decide what you are willing to win with.  

 

[Nate Ortiz]

35 minutes ago, B-17 said:

 

I can speak on how I act with those moments. I have let people out of late pins, and I understand that would make people say that it is sudden death and that should not happen, but I would force a kickout immediately after a pin to sell a chop or a typical move to sell that the person still has a lot less and add the flavor. But that's only one example. 

 

There comes a certain point in the match where I ask myself if I am willing to win with this move. If the answer is no, I don't leave it up to the other person to decide. 

 

Chop=forced kickout at zero. 

I haven't hit a finisher and gone for a pin early in the match, and they really should kick out= let out.

Land an elbow drop? You'd better kick out, because I consider this a bit of a move. 

 

Only you can decide what you are willing to win with.  

 

This pretty much is how I look at it, too. As long as we don't get to a point where people are spamming pin moves or flavor pins after every late match move to get the sudden death win, nothing to worry about. Stuff like this is why we have the submission rules and such in place as well.

[Kassidy Hayes]

At the end of the day, match of the night will never be a match where sudden death is actively tried for. Actively is the key word, it becomes easy to see you just really need the dub and for some thats fine and other it lowers match quality. 

 

Nate could done the same to me in our match 2 fins to zero. To each thier own.