Kip Conrad Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 in svr 2008 at the end of a tag match its pure luck who wins, not skill. (oh i tried to kick the ref but missed) so it is the same thing because to win a tag match becomes all about luck in svr 2008. There is some skill in a 3 way trying to get both guys down and finished long enough to make a pin can be hard to do. As much non skill and luck it takes to win a 3way is the same as a tag. tag = luck of the draw as well and you know the only way to win a tag is to have some botched bull crap happen as the teams try to break the pin up. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jlethridge1/kiss.gif The NoHomo Club Members Justin Rox Smythe D. Wonder x2 (3rd times a charm) M.M.M Leonheart Deano Horse (Given and Taken) Poe
Smythe D. Wonder Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 simple example or why you are wrong jobber Kip... I have won 10+ consecutive tag matches.. (from the July tag tourney until now) there is NO OCW superstar capable of winning 10 plus 3-way matches... there are too many factors in it... none involving skill at all... Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Kip Conrad Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 just cuz you win something does not make it more legit then anything else proof is tag matches are luck of the draw at the finish. targeting bad physics bullshit game design all can lead to a win or lose, that is no more skill then a 3 way by your standards. I beat you in a dress so basically that means you are more of a jobber then me so your in fact known as JOBBER SMYTHE by your logic. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jlethridge1/kiss.gif The NoHomo Club Members Justin Rox Smythe D. Wonder x2 (3rd times a charm) M.M.M Leonheart Deano Horse (Given and Taken) Poe
Kip Conrad Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 wrestling in a dress is very comfortable and free, i kinda like it. No Homo http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jlethridge1/kiss.gif The NoHomo Club Members Justin Rox Smythe D. Wonder x2 (3rd times a charm) M.M.M Leonheart Deano Horse (Given and Taken) Poe
Deano Horse Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Sometimes it pays to have more luck than skill. That goes for every match in OCW. A 3 way can add more prestige the other way around. if you succesfully defend a title in a 3 way it's worth a few more Kudos points. At the end of the day it's all swings and round-a-bouts. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jlethridge1/kiss.gif The DeanoHomo Club Member Kip Conrad
Administrators Mr.Sensation Posted December 16, 2008 Author Administrators Posted December 16, 2008 Red did 2x 4 ways back to back 3 total, point is now NEGATED huzzah! 15-06, 18:20 Tiberius Dupree make him tap with brownie mix "Booking Wrestling is the most thankless no-win position anyone could ever be in. When things go well it's the talent that makes it work. When they go badly, it's because the Booker doesn't know what he's doing." - Eric Bischoff Jookie: what website do we upload to againi for got Our Hero: uploadafraud.com Jookie: fuck u boricua "I'm like Smythe, except Good" - Matsuda OCW works best when it’s a melting pot of different ideas and opinions coming together to create some cool ass shit. It’s at its worst when people are only invested in their own/their pals’ content." - Paul Pugh "I'm 5,9" - Ry "I'm sorry if this sounds mean but OCW shouldn't be allowed to vote" - Jake Allen
Kip Conrad Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 getting in that ring and grabbing another man physically overpowering him holding him down with all your power and might for the longest 3 seconds of the day is such a high sometimes.... and in a dress the smooth soft fabric and freedom you have just makes it even better. no homo http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/jlethridge1/kiss.gif The NoHomo Club Members Justin Rox Smythe D. Wonder x2 (3rd times a charm) M.M.M Leonheart Deano Horse (Given and Taken) Poe
Administrators Mr.Sensation Posted December 16, 2008 Author Administrators Posted December 16, 2008 Unless your a sexy Mfer who drops a SpineBUSTAH followed by a sexy elbow. 15-06, 18:20 Tiberius Dupree make him tap with brownie mix "Booking Wrestling is the most thankless no-win position anyone could ever be in. When things go well it's the talent that makes it work. When they go badly, it's because the Booker doesn't know what he's doing." - Eric Bischoff Jookie: what website do we upload to againi for got Our Hero: uploadafraud.com Jookie: fuck u boricua "I'm like Smythe, except Good" - Matsuda OCW works best when it’s a melting pot of different ideas and opinions coming together to create some cool ass shit. It’s at its worst when people are only invested in their own/their pals’ content." - Paul Pugh "I'm 5,9" - Ry "I'm sorry if this sounds mean but OCW shouldn't be allowed to vote" - Jake Allen
AJ Phoenix Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 simple example or why you are wrong jobber Kip... I have won 10+ consecutive tag matches.. (from the July tag tourney until now) there is NO OCW superstar capable of winning 10 plus 3-way matches... there are too many factors in it... none involving skill at all... I guarantee you if Nate was put in 10 straight 3 ways vs two jobbers/rooks, he would win them all, why? Skill. Believe it or not skill does have some place in 3ways. Last time i checked it taks skill to reverse consistently (like you can in 3ways) and keep yourself from going DR (which is possible in a 3way). It also takes skill oftentimes to set yourself up for a shot to win (not always a random crapshoot). Plus tags can easily be just as luck based as you say three ways are. http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/976/senseisz8.jpg
Nate Ortiz Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Brains... IMO a 1 v 1 singles match is the truest way to tell who is the better player, I don't think anyone can argure that down. If you win a 3 way and you dominate the whole way, kudos to you that's great. But if you get your ass kicked the whole match and end up walking away with the W does that mean the same as a 1 v 1 win? No. Same in a gimmick match or tag. Example can be a ladder match where one guy takes the other guy to the woodshed but every time he climbls the ladder the other guy no sells and knocks the guy down. Eventually getting him finishable 1 move climbs and wins. Obviously the other guy showed he was better but luck was not on his side that day. Does it mean somthing that the guy was able to pull of the win, yes. But IMO it doesn't hold the same as a 1 v 1 win. Tag match same thing a team can dominate the whole match be single yellow or somthing and get a team finishble hit 3 finishers, the other team breaks them all and ends up doing enough damage through the course of the match to get the win. The other team might be better but because of the match type the other team wins. If you're the team that dominated that shows skill if you're the team that pulled out the W, you can owe a bit of it to luck. That being said instead of talking about this you all can get back to discussion the show, while I go back to my grave. Brains... May 29 2005 - Present Took Dupree's Summer
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