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  1. Out of all my time in OCW I think this feud is probably one of the best examples on what a BLOOD FEUD is like. We obviously see matches on PPVs get labeled “Blood Feud” probably for Jays ease of mind so it isn’t a ballache to always name a million matches + segments. (name your own fucking segments you heathens) But this feud? Man. I won’t lie I 100% still can’t get over the fact that fucking Cobra has been Eddie Ramos for all this time. I should’ve known when he said MJ > LeBron smh. I don't know if I would go "all time" with my statement, but I do agree it is a blood feud, and it feels this could be the defining, never-ending feud that marks the careers of people, especially for Gabe. I find this to be an actual moment to strap a rocket to his ass. I think Cobra has to do his best to avoid a backslide to the "old cobra" and his promo with Quartz is the right step for that.
  2. I don’t know what clicked for Sheldon lately but he’s been on FIRE. I think choosing RyVaughn as well is a perfect opponent as both guys know what it’s like to have the highest highs and the lowest lows after facing El Parca. It’s also a much better visual that Sheldon doesn’t have Dresden with him anymore (rip danny) because Sheldon doesn’t need a heater or an NPC with him to get his point across. He’s a former world champ, international champ and one of the most dominant tag competitors ever. So for him to be finding this footing and really locking in is a wonderful thing to see. I’m very curious on what RyVaughn does in the final week and in the Lution match? Or whenever they have their final meeting which will obviously be in the ring. Emo Shelly is the best version of Shelly. Sell the despair and failure of his past and how it has dragged him down to this grunge, 90s style, fight-the-establishment kind of guy.
  3. However some of the cutscenes and videos that were used to stitch together everything in the end was a bit odd. Maybe I’m overlooking some things and not piecing it together as well but why exactly would B17 not wanna get his hands on her the minute he could? Why would B17 be standing next to her also Pikachu shock faced by what Quartz did? I do think you are overlooking some things. B17 was shocked because this is precisely what Quartz said he wouldn't stoop to. Quartz is betraying his own system of self-worth IS the actual shock to B17. Emp cheating, expected, I even claimed I was a bit proud of the heist because, as I said in the interview, it is impressive that Emp is the devil and no one truly saw it until it was too late. Emp has been portrayed as this villain who will do whatever she wants. Quartz, on the other hand, turned a corner, and his reversal of ideals is essentially a betrayal of what he has stood for these past three months. The only person who hasn't betrayed their ideals and has stayed true to their beliefs, "Rise Up Again and Again and Again," is Bingo.
  4. Sarah Moore imo is not ready for this spot. I was a bit confused on why she was involved in it when I don’t think there’s been much evolution or character growth from her consistently enough to warrant this type of position. Yes she has the branch with Skadi, Cheryl and Marisa but I would’ve liked to see her develop more. Deborah and Perl are an interesting dynamic as well. Deborah before she lost the women’s world title was obviously positioning herself as a babyface. Ever since she’s come back she obviously went after Junko which is rightfully so but afterward I haven’t gotten very babyface vibes from her especially in the segment between her, Cheryl and Skadi. I was actually having a talk with a bunch of people in the turmoil VP after the show, and they were talking me into being ok with Moore being involved. But much like you and Kass, I'm looking at the lineup and I'm not upset they are getting the shot, I'm more questioning if this is pulling the trigger on a significant event that could have been more appropriately done at another PPV with more time for them to interact, because it does feel disjointed to me, and this is Lution, as for the idea of Perl not being involved, I think she has one of the clearest reasons to be concerned due to her evident past with Marisa. I told Jim that I too would have preferred the straight Deb vs. Perl story to unfold first, but bringing up the losses only allows considerations of Stixx's record and Skadi's records as well. Skadi in particular has had a rough go of it on the sticks lately.
  5. From the shit fuck, Mugen. Let me continue the discussion by saying I think B-17 smells like 3 day old diapers, pass it on
  6. Hey, Something that kind of sorta came up in the town hall is that we all like different things when it comes to wrestling storytelling, presentation, characters, comedy, whatever. But we didn't really push past when the idea of a clean slate was presented. Hence why I said "what the hell does that mean?" So this is my likely wrong way to take a step forward for that. I’ve enjoyed ROH, MLW, TNA, NJPW, AEW, and WWE at different points, and I've been vocal my favorite part of OCW isn't the videos, the rps, the matches, per say, my favorite part is the character presentation. The point is, there isn’t one “right” way to do this. For me, I make content I’m happy with first, I keep Jay in mind second, and then I think about the wider audience. That’s why I think the B17 story works. He got manipulated into a match with Emp, attacked more than once (Quartz included), and then suspended for hitting the boss. That’s as classic as it gets: babyface gets played, authority figure steps in, authority figure uses their power. The whole “he’s not around, not fighting for OCW, leaving people behind” thing just feels like ignoring the actual story. Which I heard today is a big no-no. Just because it’s not the story you would’ve told doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense. If this “clean slate” is what we’re doing, then let’s actually do it, re-engage with the content, and cut back on the snark. A little bit, anyway. No way Parca stops being snarky and I like to make a joke out of everything. But Jake, Emp, me, and plenty of others have put time into building something we’re proud of. And I get it some feel like their own stuff gets brushed aside. So, If that’s the case, I’d love to see short write-ups defending those stories too. That way I can understand WHY you are doing what you're doing. I'm not sure if this is the right approach, but I will start here.
  7. Down with the oligarchy!
  8. I can speak on how I act with those moments. I have let people out of late pins, and I understand that would make people say that it is sudden death and that should not happen, but I would force a kickout immediately after a pin to sell a chop or a typical move to sell that the person still has a lot less and add the flavor. But that's only one example. There comes a certain point in the match where I ask myself if I am willing to win with this move. If the answer is no, I don't leave it up to the other person to decide. Chop=forced kickout at zero. I haven't hit a finisher and gone for a pin early in the match, and they really should kick out= let out. Land an elbow drop? You'd better kick out, because I consider this a bit of a move. Only you can decide what you are willing to win with.
  9. Jay made my signature. You think I have any clue how to change it?
  10. Just my two cents. If you want to have a match of the night or match of the year, the match needs to end appropriately. Sudden death can exist for whatever move you wish it to exist for but it is such a ugh feeling when a good match ends in a such a manner. My personal interpretation is that sudden death means that a top rope superplex, or a diving elbow drop, or just some impactful move ends it. Not a regular move will be seen multiple times throughout the show. But, just my two cents.
  11. They have Instagram in Canada?
  12. Idiot. I agree with most of your list for what it is. Hope all is well. Love, Billy Diamond.
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