Riot Episode 319

[Pugh]

What the fans really want to know is... who made it into KD's fave five?

[Chris Baxter]

after 8 years .. d-jack still creeps me out sometimes

[Chris Mania]

Where you pullin this 8years from? You joined after I did, 7years ago.

[David Jackson]

Where you pullin this 8years from? You joined after I did, 7years ago.

 

Baxter and I have known each other before he joined OCW.

[Chris Baxter]

ive known d-jack longer than ive known of ocw .. i first got an email from jaysin back in the WM21 days when a fed member was stealing members from ocw

[Matsuda]

As interesting as all this who's known who for how long is... How about some show discussion?

 

Debate With the Devil:

I've been enjoying Trance on the shows, he had a great match with Poo last week and not to toot my own horn, I think we had a very entertaining match this week.

 

Question:

What's next for Trance? He's had two great showings but two tough losses. What do you think his goals are/should be? Do you think he will still babble on about the fictional Team reliable?

 

My thoughts:

Me and Trance bonded on the front lines face the worst kind of rookies, so I don't have the short fuse with Trance that Pugh and a few others seem to have. I think he's a good character, has unique body morphing, but the main issue I've heard with him is consistency. I think he's had a very strong start to this season, and if he keeps this momentum going I see an International title shot in the near future… as long as he doesn't ask for it!

 

The Dupree, Parker, Sensation angle has went above and beyond my personal expectations, and I think we're really seeing something develop here. Parker's being more of a bully than every, Jay hasn't been wackier since the Sensational Crane Incident, and Dupree is… different?

 

Question:

Obviously the metamorphosis we're seeing in Dupree is leading to something, but what is it leading to? Will he stop being such a bubblegum face and become more aggressive to reach his goals? Or will he finally embrace the hate?

 

My thoughts:

A lot of people see the Stone Cold/Vince McMahon feud with Parker and Jay, but what I personally see is Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels between Dupree and Parker. We're seeing the changing of eras, from the cheesy 1980s face passing the title on to a guy that SHOULD by all means be a bad guy. What I think we're seeing is Dupree struggling to keep a crowd that he just doesn't appeal to anymore. At this point, he's trying to get the title back by any means necessary, because deep down in his psyche he thinks that that is the key to getting his dragonflies back.

 

Bonus Round:

That jacket is mine MOTHERF%$#&ER!

 

Ace Angel and Justice are feuding.

 

Question:

Can two jobbers who don't speak actually feud?

 

My thoughts:

Yep.

 

The souls of the banned come together to open the show. This could either be awful or by some miracle match of the night. Both caws actually look pretty nice.

 

Question:

DJack and Hazard have both been away for a while now and were kicked out for their own reasons. Is there room for redemption? What do you see Hazard and DJack playing future roles in OCW as?

 

My thoughts:

Djack creeps me out.

 

The rising sons have a big opportunity facing the ATEAM this month at Chill Faktor, but the only thing we've really seen of it is the Sons hanging out and the ATEAM running errands for Jay.

 

Question:

At this rate, the ATEAM are probably the most dominant team in OCW history, so the odds are that the Rising Sons will just be another victim. Do you prefer no real build leading up to an ATEAM squash?

 

My thoughts:

I would have liked to see both teams work together to make me want to watch the match at the pay-per-view. Not sure if it was a lack of communication or on purpose.

 

Chris Mania makes a much anticipated return to an OCW ring in an unsuccessful bout against a red hot Cody Storm.

 

Question:

Why the hell couldn't we feed Ace Angel to Mania? Or does the golden age get nothing but straight competition?

 

My thoughts:

This was a tough match to watch, and I was really pulling for the legend returns and comes back strong angle, but that simply wasn't the case. Mania was definitely rusty and it showed. Regardless, I'm happy to see you back, and hope I can work with you in the future. SPOONMAN!

 

Smythe successfully faces the International champion Tyro Kraven in what might be considered an upset win.

 

Question:

Was this a big win for Smythe or a big loss for Tyro?

 

My thoughts:

Tyros been in a bit of a slump since winning the title, oddly enough, and I think that it was a bigger loss for him as he stays stuck in this rut. Though it was crucial for Smythe to pull out a win tonight not only against a very game opponent but to keep himself from getting into a ruth too.

 

Bonus round:

Is Tyro just a full on heel now? What a dick.

 

Valmont vs. Dimsmore has been building with a very slow burn.

 

Question:

Do you think Valmont does actually return? If so, do you think he'll come back as a game opponent for a very beastly Dimsmore? Or will he return much like Chris Mania, rusty?

 

My thoughts:

Yes and yes.

 

Sean McGee is being the sketchiest face in history.

 

Question:

Is McGee genuine in his efforts to become a better person? On another level, McGee is someone who has developed IMMENSELY over the course of the last year, without Ambition no less. What do you think gets him to the "next level" to put him in the same sentence as some of the company's bigger stars?

 

My thoughts:

McGee is the real leader of the scumbag era, so no. He's also so much better on the sticks when the camera isn't on, if he can channel some of that skill onto televised matches, he will definitely get elevated quickly. More importantly, he needs to work with a main event guy--being involved with a bigger name might get his stuck there.

 

HOLY SHIT ROBERT MCBRIDE!

 

Question:

We have a regular clash of the titans on our hands if this feud plays out--though I hope it gets pushed back to the next pay per view as opposed to chill factor. Is this match only happening so that the ring can collapse? But seriously, is anyone else excited for all three of these returns?

 

My thoughts:

Similar to my thoughts on Trance, I don't share the animosity for Mayhem that some people have. I think he's awesome when he's around, but its all about consistency. Who ever comes out on top from this feud has to be looking at a world title shot in the near future, though I hope these two go at it for a few months.

 

Bonus Round:

I'll kill McBride again!

 

Feel free to answer one, two, or all… I've found that questions are a good way to get discussion going.

 

Some great talking points! You didn't even need to watch the show!

[Pugh]

Question:

What's next for Trance? He's had two great showings but two tough losses. What do you think his goals are/should be? Do you think he will still babble on about the fictional Team reliable?

 

My thoughts:

Trance is his own worst enemy. He's decent to work with, and he's also a pretty cool guy, but he's incredibly streaky. He'll get on a hot streak for a month or so, then be kinda lazy for a while, so if he fixes that, then theres no reason he can't be a big (pardon the unfortunate wording) part of this season.

 

Question:

Obviously the metamorphosis we're seeing in Dupree is leading to something, but what is it leading to? Will he stop being such a bubblegum face and become more aggressive to reach his goals? Or will he finally embrace the hate?

 

My thoughts:

Dupree is a scumbag, and Parker is a scumbag - I could care less about this feud...

 

In reality, they're leading up to some sort of epic at CF, and I'm looking forward to watching it. Hopefully Dupree will man up and fight Parker at his own game

 

 

Question:

Can two jobbers who don't speak actually feud?

 

My thoughts:

Absolutely we can. We're awesome.

 

Question:

DJack and Hazard have both been away for a while now and were kicked out for their own reasons. Is there room for redemption? What do you see Hazard and DJack playing future roles in OCW as?

 

My thoughts:

Hazard and DJack both suffer the same problems. They're eternally lowcarders, each for different reasons. The way to combat this in both cases is to have more compelling (or any at all) roleplays. Roleplays build characters, characters get noticed, characters rise up the card. The match wasn't awful, it was just kind of "meh".

 

Question:

At this rate, the ATEAM are probably the most dominant team in OCW history, so the odds are that the Rising Sons will just be another victim. Do you prefer no real build leading up to an ATEAM squash?

 

My thoughts:

A-Team could struggle to put them down, but I see them retaining. I would have liked to have seen an actual feud, but when people are handed #1 contender matches, then this sort of thing is bound to happen.

 

Question:

Why the hell couldn't we feed Ace Angel to Mania? Or does the golden age get nothing but straight competition?

 

My thoughts:

Spoon needs to bed in on a new game. As several other vets will tell you, WWE 13 is a completely different beast to past games. Hopefully we get the Spoon of old back down the line - but feeding him to Cody was mean as fuck. Cody pushes the guys who play every day all the way, so Spoon was always going to struggle here. He'll be back soon though... SOON.

 

Question:

Was this a big win for Smythe or a big loss for Tyro?

 

My thoughts:

Tyro is on his arse at the moment, so it's not really a surprise that he lost this one. He'll come back though, because thats what Tyro does, he's a mean mutha.

 

Question:

Do you think Valmont does actually return? If so, do you think he'll come back as a game opponent for a very beastly Dimsmore? Or will he return much like Chris Mania, rusty?

 

My thoughts:

Played a few DMs with him, and he's certainly rusty. It'll be the same for everyone though, practice makes perfect and all that business.

 

Question:

Is McGee genuine in his efforts to become a better person? On another level, McGee is someone who has developed IMMENSELY over the course of the last year, without Ambition no less. What do you think gets him to the "next level" to put him in the same sentence as some of the company's bigger stars?

 

My thoughts:

McGee needs to not be a pussy and get something swinging between those legs. Good guy McGee is still a scumbag, so why not embrace the scumbaggery?

 

Question:

We have a regular clash of the titans on our hands if this feud plays out--though I hope it gets pushed back to the next pay per view as opposed to chill factor. Is this match only happening so that the ring can collapse? But seriously, is anyone else excited for all three of these returns?

 

My thoughts:

This match is happening so the ring can collapse. Pato is easily top 5 in OCW, without a doubt, so I can't look past a Pato win. Maybe not a complete mauling, but a win nonetheless.

[Chris Baxter]

i agree d-jack needs to break into his own thing and break out of his shell ... i dont want him to go back as my lacky when i come back and just be under me while i try to push us as a tag team while he is lazy with the singles stuff .. the stuff he's doing right now is good .. just needs that one thing to get him going

 

parker and dupree .. should be interesting .. a tale of assholes and betrayers

 

spoon .. i hope to see you clotheline some peoples heads off in the future .. we need spoonermania to run wild once more

[The Vega]

I'm going to bring this as nicely as i can possible type this,Baxter. Nobody will care about the charachter Djack, past present and future. If he wants to change that, he doesnt need to break out of anything. He will need to start a new fresh charachter with a clean history and then it will still be question able if he will pop up on anyone's care radar. Because unlike Hazard he has really nothing going for him atm. Hazard atleast has some creativity when it comes to his CAW and can put up a good match from time to time.

 

So to answer the question where do i see Djack in the future of OCW ? Same as now and before>> not relevant.

[Chris Baxter]

thats an idea vega .. wonder if he'll do it though and start with a whole new guy from scratch