Riot 424 Graduation EXTRAVAGANZA!!!

[Tank]

To explain the cut. Dennis recorded the match and lost the first couple minutes of recording. Rather than redo it, which we could have and I was all for it, he did a cut where I attacked him at the beginning. As for all the powerbombs... If you guys read the rp I put up about it. Tank did say he was going to powerbomb Dennis all over the ring. So there was a story as to why there were so many powerbombs. I bust my ass writing shit and people don't read it. Attire wise, I could of fixed that easy. Had someone told me... idk when they saw the attire at the clash I could of changed it then. When I ran around asking all of the vets for advice and what I could do better.... Don't know why they couldn't of said anything then. FPR wise. It was an accident and I don't do that type of shit. It's not OMG blatant disregard for the rules. It was Dennis really wanted to do that match one day like 20 or 30 minutes before I went to work. I was rushing to get the match over so I wouldn't be late. In my rush, I made some big mistakes. I'm a fucking human being. I can make mistakes, I can learn from them and have shown that I will take advice, listen to it, and apply it in the past. Why I couldn't have be brought in private IDK. Also I agree with Jacob. Pugh, you don't give a fuck about Turmoil to begin with, so why give a fuck suddenly today?

[Jacob Trance]

That wasn't what I said at all Tank.

 

My best advice to you right now is to not get into a discussion until Jay and I talk it over.

[Tiberius Dupree]

This ain't Turmoil this is Riot btw, just to clear that up with everyone.

[Smythe D. Wonder]

I just actually watched the match... Tank Your attire is fine... They told me my attire sucked for years... your move set should be better... but you said you changed it for the match...

 

Your blatant disregard for FPR is why you can't be champion... you don't understand what hovering is... and you hit 3 finishers before you were allowed to and the only reason I can see you doing it was because you were getting your ass kicked...

 

Dennis... you weren't much better... that dropkick after the ground strike reversal isn't right... but I'll just take it as you don't know any better...

 

Back to the Drawing board for Turmoil I guess...

[Illuminati]

Alright hoots lets go through this step by step. Due to reasons Jay had to combine the Riot Graduation, 424 and Turmoil 113. It was decided to make this a big old rookie showcase. In the case of Tank v Dennis the match was made to showcase Turmoil's main event scene, Champion v Champion and all that. So whatever happens happens the show is put up. Its long as hell so I figure I'll do my in depth watch over the weekend and skim through the written content. I had seen the warning preceeding the Tank v Dennis match and just assumed it had been a victim of Twitch being shitty and disregarded.

 

Next morning while I'm at work I get a message from OUR HERO, "Did you see the Tank vs Dennis Match?". I said that I hadn't and that I'm unable to at work to which he responded "You need to see it immediately and it needs to be talked about." As the day goes on Dan(Pugh) sends me a message and asks if Jay had talked to me about the Tank match, I said yes and we ended up deciding we'd watch the match cold, no word from anyone no preview no nothing and review it live, posting the results.

 

As for the match itself there are glaring problems OUTSIDE of the wonky movesets. The movesets were our vehicle to simply talk while nothing was going on in the match to prevent dead air.

 

The match represented a FLAGRANT disregard for FPR and I don't care if the match was recorded 10 minutes before work or 20 minutes after your mum got eaten by your homework; you two are the PREMIER of the Turmoil brand whether people like it or not, Turmoil lives and dies by your successes or failures as champions of the show. That match should have been redone, it was unacceptable as a showcase of what Turmoil has to offer.

 

I don't care that Tank asked Dennis to redo the match because he should have thrown the match out immediately and said "As Champion this performance is not a proper example of what I have to offer". However, I can't say I blame Dennis for saying no, because if I had played someone with FPR that bad I can't say that I'd ever do a match with them again; and please don't come up with deadline bullshit either extension are constantly be given and ANY substitution would have been better by several orders of magnitude than what we got.

 

Rookies, I don't care what anyone else in this thread posts or says, this isn't about Kass, this isn't about Tank, this isn't about Turmoil, this isn't about attires and this isn't about movesets.

 

Its about someone doing 3 finishers IN A ROW without pins on a YELLOW damage opponent.

 

Its about EGREGIOUS hovering.

 

Its about BLATANT attempts at pick up finishers.

 

And its about thinking all that garbage is acceptable to be submitted to the show.

[Dennis Black]

So, I woke up for work about and had Sophia tell me there was a cast. I asked what it was for and she kinda cringed before telling me. At least I had a warning going in, unlike Tank.

 

As a disclaimer, I don't write this from a place of butt hurt or even annoyance, but disappointment. When I try to recruit for OCW, I often get asked what it is. I say it's the perfect mix between roleplay and wrestling. But more and more I've come to learn that the ‘Hoot Cast’ is what OCW really is, and that's a shame.

 

Was my match perfect? Absolutely not. But then again none of the matches were. Was it the worst match in OCW’s history? I don't believe so. I've seen matches that I consider much worse, some from Riot and some from Turmoil. No doubt that the match should have been redone, no exscuse there. But haven't we all made mistakes or had a case of poor judgement? I'm still learning about OCW.

 

It's becoming clear to me that I applied to OCW as someone who was very naive to what this place was. The terms Veteran and Community get thrown out a lot on this site. A veteran is someone with more experience that rookies can learn from. Veterans are supposed to take rookies under their wing and pass on knowledge, so when that Vet is gone, he can be sure that the work ethic and skill he brought to the table remains. There's what a Veteran is supposed to do, and then there is what most but not all of our OCW Vets do, and that is sad.

 

Moving on to the term community, I've been running a roleplaying community for almost six years and I would never treat new people the way you do. I've been roleplaying for fifteen years. Does that give me the authority to post a podcast here about how some of you write? We’ve got ‘top guys’, ‘hoots’, and good brothers who can't spell for shit. We’ve got main eventers and vets that can't fucking tell that there is a difference between ‘your’ and ‘you're’, but do I record something for the sole purpose of putting them down? No, because it would embarrass them and do me no good. I also know I have grammatical errors here and there.

 

I don’t do it because until last night, I cared about this place, the opinions of people on it, and was 110% committed. This isn't a community.

 

I would love some criticism. Even some tough criticism. Again, I know I'm not

perfect at this. I joined in January with goals of being a top guy in a few years, and maybe even main eventing a few lutions before my time comes when I need to step aside for a newer player. I know for a fact I'm capable.

 

But there's a difference between criticism / tough love and what last night was. Last night was a group of guys putting themselves over while shitting on two relatively new people when they should be trying to help. I've listened to the cast twice now, and I honestly don't feel like I've learned anything other than how toxic this place can be. The only person with experience that's ever actually taken the time to critique me, good or bad, did it in private, and he's gone now because he didn't like what this place was becoming. I had a month with a mentor in the shallow end before getting tossed to the Sharks, how can I be expected to be Michael Phelps already? And why not criticize the entire show? Like non champions being shown to have resiliency.

 

I shouldn't have to read ‘this isn't Turmoil, this is Riot’. That's the toxic mindset that prevents this place from being all that it can be. It should be ‘This is OCW’ period. Whether you like it or not, watch it not, Turmoil is a reflection of OCW just as much as Riot is. So rather than being what you all have been since I joined, why not put that energy towards making OCW as a whole, better? You don't need to play on the same system as someone to offer some advice.

 

When enthusiastic newcomers like me who are passionate about this place are feeling cut down, it's no wonder we can't really keep any rookies. I've talked FOUR Turmoil people out of quitting, and two of them have been here longer than me. I shouldn't have to do that.

 

To say that I should be stripped of the TV title over one match is upsetting and asinine, especially with the time and effort I put in. It's disrespectful. Am i going to flake out and quit? No, I've got tougher skin than the average rook. Not to mention It would screw over Sophia and Dylan. But I also wasn't going to be like most of Turmoil and suffer in silence after that podcast, after I was focused on like that, absolutely not. Were all of you the best in your first three months? Shit I'm told Pugh sucked for his first three years. Would a podcast like last night have helped any of you? I doubt it.

 

I would be dishonest if I said I wasn't a little less invested in this place after that podcast. I'll continue to watch both shows, but i'm done with this thread and replying to most of the forum in general. I'll still contribute to Turmoil and do my part to make it better. I believe in the PS4 brand.

 

But then again, these are just my opinions. Opinions are like assholes, some get used and abused more than others. OCW suffers from wwe syndrome. Turmoil players will still be shit on even when the content is good, because the talent don't have any options on where they can land if they decide to leave the company. For people that don't even watch Turmoil to say I should be stripped is beyond stupid. If Sensation wish to do so off of ‘uniformed’ opinions, then so be it.

 

I'll just get it back…

 

And no; not back to the drawing board and putting the turmoil title on a vet aren't helpful things to add. Is Jacob supposed to GM and hold the damn title? If that's the case, he might as well just start using Triple H’s entrance and start calling sensation his father in law. If you truly believe that a Vet should hold the title, get a ps4.

 

It's a new brand, it's going to take time. Was Riot the shit from day one? Probably not.

 

On a lighter note, aj devitt is changing the red arrow to the coup de grace.

 

In closing, there are constructive ways to critique, and then there's the hoot cast. It's just as bad, if not worse than the match with Tank. Because this came from vets that should know better. We should have been taken aside into a voice or something. I think it's shameful that something like this was allowed to be recorded and posted.

[Bloom]

You missed the memo dennis. Your in the clear..

[Parker]

You missed the memo dennis. Your in the clear..

 

*You're

[Pugh]

Opinions bro. Opinions.

[Bloom]

*You're

I hate you.