Riot 8-05-2010

[Mayhem]

SRY Trance your good but not that good. As I said prior to this Congrats and dont worry about the 4 grapple thing i talked with you already prior to Riot being posted. So anyone that wants to try and say something about that just save it.

 

I can tell you all the kicking out shit is going to come to a end.

 

FPR wants everyone to start being ethical about kicking out of Finishers.

 

High tech = faster kick out meter. Tested and proven that's all it fucking is and you can't say anything other wise or else your just trying to save yourself because you want to be cheap and kick out of everything.

i.e Funaki should not kick out of any finisher from big show, kane, cena, HHH, any ME guy. Why? BECAUSE YOU NEVER FUCKING SEE IT PERIOD!!!!

 

I can see MVP kicking out of Kane's Choke Slam maybe twice in a title match or a #1 contender match.

 

So yea Trance kicking out twice i can deal with, more than that i just dont care for.

 

I know it's a game & you want to win but do you want to try to at least play this like RL wrestling or just play to win by any means if thats the case come see me and i'll show you how that can really feel.

 

Personally I don't know if Smythe wanted to hold onto that belt but if I was him and I did. I would just DQ myself because after that many kick outs it wouldnt matter. Thats because the kicking out like that enters a CHEESE ZONE

 

just because you can spam chain moves should you? No! it's cheesy

 

Same thing for kicking out, you spam it every finisher. It's chessy, STOP BEING A FUCKING DICK CHEESE!

 

I think that it is Trash that THQ fucked that up in a big way relating TECH to the fastness of your kick out bar.

 

Also

 

Going to talk to JAY about making it a shop item to buy at a high cost for you ass's to change your finishers and sig along with stats.

 

I see it too often adjusting stats and most of the time it is to accommodate a new finisher for some little cheap trick combo you guys put together.

 

So Stat changes will come at a high OCW price, changing finisher not so much.

 

Also try to vary your moves guys. I know if you have a head finish you want to work the head but work other limbs or else you look like a cheap head hunter, the old damage values apply and i have no doubt that they do because of the amount of charisma boost the move gives follows the old SvR methods.

 

It's not realistic and that's something some more than others need to work on.

 

 

I'll comment on the show later now that I got that off my chest

[Trevor McManus]

I beat both Trance and Aries with ONE finisher.

 

QQ

 

Also I kicked out of 4 Smythe finishers before with a 75 TECH stat. Can we say 75 is cheap? I really don't see how.

 

When I kicked out of hundreds of finishers it was "OH MY GOD WHAT A MATCH" "MATCH OF THE YEAR"

 

If I had won that match would it have been "OH MY GOD CHEESE?"

[Useless Dane Xavier]

At the end of the day, the only thing that is important to me and makes me happy is that my match looks good and there were no FPR or ethics issues. If I win then that's just the icing on the cake. Trance, I'd rather watch 2 hours of Kurt Angle and TNA than watch your 25 minute cheese out of desperation attempts. I don't like matches that disrupt the flow of my Riot watching. As for facing you for the belt, I'd love to since you're making the challenge in your own weird way.

[Aries]

I beat both Trance and Aries with ONE finisher.

 

QQ

 

 

Thank you!!!

 

 

Stop crying about people kicking it. Its part of the fucking game. Stop fighting game mechanics. Its getting a bit ridiculous. Why should I have to dumb down my style of play, because someone else can't handle it? Is it hard to kick out of finishers? Certainly not. Are there other ways to finish matches? :GASP: Why, you don't say!

 

Sure, OCW is about having the best match, and putting on a great show...but how can someone have a great show, with having to keep tedious rules encased in their brain the entire fucking match? Some of the rules, like tylering..ok, fine, it IS exploitable, and retarded....but, really, you don't see that shit happening in REAL wrestling, do you?

 

"OH SHIT! I KICKED YOU IN THE GUT WHILE YOU WERE GRAPPLING! HERE, LET'S RESET!"

 

You're taking away the fundamentals of the game, to what, make it fair, and fun?

 

Give me a break guys. Getting rid of "constant kickouts" because some of you can't put away a fucking match is quite exacerbating. If I could edit my battle royal, albeit an hour long, I would show you that you could finish a fucking match.

 

OCW MATCHES, not OCW as a whole, but the matches, are about COMPETITION. Not about limiting what we are allowed to do in an already limited game.

 

HOLY SHIT! D-JACK KICKED OUT OF MY FINISHER! So? Low card status, sure. But that doesn't mean I can't put him away, or he pulls some crazy shit out of his ass and beats me.

 

Now, I agree, the pin system, AND momentum system are both fucking broken....BUT STOP

 

PUTTING

 

RULES

 

ON

 

EVERYTHING.

 

Why is this what OCW has become? Why?! Bunch of whiney fucks who can't just DEAL with things. Instead you have to fucking moan until you get your way.

 

And Jay said I have emotional problems. Bitch please.

 

ALSO,

 

Hello Aries it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?

[Aries]

Thank you!!!

 

 

Stop crying about people kicking it. Its part of the fucking game. Stop fighting game mechanics. Its getting a bit ridiculous. Why should I have to dumb down my style of play, because someone else can't handle it? Is it hard to kick out of finishers? Certainly not. Are there other ways to finish matches? :GASP: Why, you don't say!

 

Sure, OCW is about having the best match, and putting on a great show...but how can someone have a great show, with having to keep tedious rules encased in their brain the entire fucking match? Some of the rules, like tylering..ok, fine, it IS exploitable, and retarded....but, really, you don't see that shit happening in REAL wrestling, do you?

 

"OH SHIT! I KICKED YOU IN THE GUT WHILE YOU WERE GRAPPLING! HERE, LET'S RESET!"

 

You're taking away the fundamentals of the game, to what, make it fair, and fun?

 

Give me a break guys. Getting rid of "constant kickouts" because some of you can't put away a fucking match is quite exacerbating. If I could edit my battle royal, albeit an hour long, I would show you that you could finish a fucking match.

 

OCW MATCHES, not OCW as a whole, but the matches, are about COMPETITION. Not about limiting what we are allowed to do in an already limited game.

 

HOLY SHIT! D-JACK KICKED OUT OF MY FINISHER! So? Low card status, sure. But that doesn't mean I can't put him away, or he pulls some crazy shit out of his ass and beats me.

 

Now, I agree, the pin system, AND momentum system are both fucking broken....BUT STOP

 

PUTTING

 

RULES

 

ON

 

EVERYTHING.

 

Why is this what OCW has become? Why?! Bunch of whiney fucks who can't just DEAL with things. Instead you have to fucking moan until you get your way.

 

And Jay said I have emotional problems. Bitch please.

 

ALSO,

 

Hello Aries it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?

 

 

You're awesome!

 

Why can't I mark out for myself? :(

[Trevor McManus]

I CERTAINLY agree that the technical stat needs limited. 90+ is just insane. You CANNOT beat them. I hit 20 pedigrees and 4 spears and I couldn't beat someone with 99.

 

But Trance's is 80 and mine is 75. I think they're both fine.

[Useless Dane Xavier]

Hello Aries it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?

Which even more emphasizes the continued pattern of you standing up for your good buddy. Way to go!

[Smythe D. Wonder]

Finisher kickouts are gone... it pretty much makes the rest of the game obsolete... unless everyone changes to a submission finisher!!! which is retarded...

 

it's clearly an advantage and it's something that wasn't a problem before... if you can justify a man getting hit with 5 finishers and escaping all of them that's on you... but this is OCW... which once meant something... that bullshit can't fly anymore...

 

Also let's try to limit our movesets when it comes to chainable moves... the FPR rule was 4th move knockdown... it's a good rule...

 

clearly we all are mixed about this... the guys that need to kick out of finishers to have a chance want to keep it... the guys that are more dominant want it out... but if were looking at realism here... a finisher ends a match... it just makes sense...

 

so let's enjoy the show... congrats new champion... New FPR is coming... more concrete... cause the grey areas are clearly being taken advantage of... sad sign of the times and the state of the OCW community!!! but it needs to be fixed and it will be!!!

[Aries]

Which even more emphasizes the continued pattern of you standing up for your good buddy. Way to go!

 

 

Fuck you. I hate your guts. Rot in hell.

 

Another point I wanted to make.

 

Why the fuck are we arguing!? WHY ARE WE WORRYING ABOUT THIS?!?!?!

 

Look at Riot this week! Three fucking pages! THREE!!!!!

 

You're all sitting on your asses whining about pins and kickouts and combo's.

 

Here's a fucking thought to ponder! WRITE SOMETHING FOR RIOT.

 

Instead of worrying about making matches look contrived and utterly stupid, how about making sure the SHOWS are worth watching first, ah? How about filling Riot with illustrious content? How about filling Riot with soooo much content, that even Jaysin himself pops in a fucking word about how awesome the show is?!

 

But you won't. You'll just sit here, reading what I typed, trying to think of a witty fucking rebuttal, as to why kicking out and combo's, and winning, and controllers, should all be limited and/or banned!

[Jacob Trance]

I think personally, we should engage in a taunt race, first person to get a finisher obviously wins. This would eliminate all problems. It'd also ensure main event stars always win over upper mid card, and obviously this trend continues down the card.

 

Keeping everyone exactly where they are.