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Thats a good idea, but then we have the problem of say You hit your finisher 3-4 minutes into the match, the other person isnt allowed to kick out..match over..which is kinda stupid. But i do like your idea.

Crybaby antics? Please..get off your ego for 1 minute and atleast try to understand the point i'm talking about. I'm not crying...the ending was total bullshit and you know it. The point is, whilst not breaking fpr,a blatent exploit to the FPR rules was used, you can't deny that,you yourself agreed the end of the match was lame..people join OCW to get away from the cheesy, unethical bullshit we get with randoms, and that fact that people here still manage to pull this kinda shit is ridiculous. Yes the rule states that once you hit your finisher you can end the match anyway you want..so the rule is obviously flawed and needs re-thinking. Which was my point. You brought up the kick out thing again, when the threads ahve nothing to do with it. So i'm not sure why you mentioned the kick out rule in the first place.

Me too...you obviously don't get the point people are trying to make, it's like pulling teeth talking to you. Back to the show.....

You just dont get it do you KD? I used the roll up IMMEDIATLY after you kicked out of the finisher...you used the bear hug like 15 miniutes after you hit your finisher,when you were almost beaten,no where near getting another sig or finisher, you used it for a cheap end...see the difference?

Sorry Smythe, but the 2 have NOTHING to do with each other..there's nothing wrong with kicking out of finishers, as if you can mash fast enough then good for you..but kD hit his fin like 4 minutes into the match, it was NEVER gonna win that early on, from there on he got his ass beat, and when Poe was looking like winning he went into ' shit, gotta win mode'....and used whats basically a loophole in the FPR rules to win. Shit, we could all play like that, hit our fins as soon as poss, then after they kick out, and we look like we are in a bit of danger, boom..slap on a sub. I have no problems with people kicking out, kick outs only became a big problem to you when people kicked out of YOUR finisher,so then you go on about 'ban kick outs' blah blah, KD kicked outta my finisher at Sumemrcide, did I whine? No..because he mashed fast enough to escape..so he deserevd to kick out,so the argument makes no sense. and another note..if that was your match, and you lost like that, you know you'd have done the match again, or tried to change the rule. Most people wanted rules to shorten matches and replace the DR rules, but as proven..less ethical people still find a way to exploit and cheese these rules.

Probably not..but I GUARANTEE it won't be you that ends it...bottom of the pile swetheart, bottom of the pile.

It has nothing to do with you using a sub to end the match KD, its the WAY you ended the match, you had no right ending the match,especially in the way you did..thats what everyones problem is with it.The fact that you probably dont see a problem with it makes it even worse. And you had your chance at the TV title at Summercide...remind me again how that worked out for ya? :p

There was nothing 'good shit' about that match ending....some people just don't get 'ethics'.

The winner hit his finisher like 4-5 minutes into the match, so it was kicked out of [obviously] I hope this isnt the start of a new trend in OCW...hit your finisher as early as possible,where it will obviously get kicked out of, so that you can end the match anyway you like later on in the match after actual damage had been done. The ending to the mach sucked imo..as the winner didnt even get a 2nd sig or anything.

The Poe/Jones rp was awesome..Poe the love doctor..thanks to Valmont we know Poe is uglier than Rooney :p so we know all he's loving is his left hand! Fausto is golden on commentary and I'm only on page 2.

Booking this week is kinda FUBAR..I thought D-Jack was the number 1 contender for the TV title? As he won his ppv match, then Hostile gets a random title shot? .... Hmmmmm...........

Holy shit...a title defense already..I'm sure you guys just hate to see me with gold :(

Guy should be the guest commentator for ALL shows..his comments were funny as hell, I can just imagine that dork sat there with a brown paper bag over his head :p Mad report delivers as always, I look forward to Mike's reviews almost as much as the shows.

The Underground thing is cool as hell..where do I sign up? :) kinda sounds like a match with no fpr..but we shall see..the announcer reminds me of Bill Mosely in 2001 maniacs:Field of screams, just with white hair...and the music was classic.

I mark for Poe's tights design..the skulls with the roses..looks sick. Poe vs D-Jack was a reverse fest..decent match, although D-Jack having the anaconda vice as a regular move is kinda meh..and his finisher will ALWAYS be associated with Vega imo. Trips/Valmont/Aries stuff is moving along nicely, althought 9 and a half minutes for what's basically a beatdown video is way over done and gets pretty boring.

So I'm guessing Dane vs myself is non title? Probably obvious I know, but I just thought I'd check :p

Pretty soon matches are gonna be decided by who has the longest entrance :p no need for any of this silly 'wrestling' malarky :) sidenote...my tech is only 70 and i can still get out via bashing..just ask Mayhem :p...45 minute dm's slowly destroy the soul :(

Trance kinda has a point there. Guy should have hit his cutter, every one is thinkin 'wow..new champ coming'...Smythe appears and boom..guy gets a chair shot, guy wins by dq and Mayhem still keeps the title due to dq..that's how it SHOULD have gone down....you kinda killed it..not sure if you didnt have the time or couldnt get it done right etc. Maybe should have thought it through a little more..I see how it sets up Smythe vs Mayhem, I just think you went about it the wrong way,Smythe says he watches oCW like he is watching Raw etc...the way I explained would have been much better 'TV'.... Just my opinion, so take it easy in your reply Smythe :p

Page 2?

Awesome graphics and a sick ass card...now if only Mad Mike would return to the ring the summer would be complete!!!! :p Sidenote..I think this is the first time Poe and I have ever faced each other...looking forward to this match.

It was a hockey mask you dam vegetable! A hockey mask with a hood up, so it wouldnt be that hard!

I doubt the hardcore title is coming back, i just want hardcore matches to return, as it gives us something to watch other than what we have now, if the division builds up then who knows...i actually think the hardcore title deserves to return more than the TV title though as its a different style of wrestling

That pick your poison match was pretty piss poor to be honest :( i was expecting a little more.....

Page 2 push :)

Guy Fausto is very active on the boards as of late, more than I have ever seen him post, even getting a little opinionated in some threads :p I mark for this.