I think Showman should be "Face" specific.

 

Cause I can see everyone switching to being Showman for the charisma.

 

And I can't name many Heels, besides maybe Hollywood Hogan, who are heel showman.

I can name lots

 

Aj Styles, Ric Flair, Rick Rude, Shawn Michaels, The Miz, John Morrison, Goldust (albeit it's a weird showman). There are many more I'm sure, I'm just lazy

I can name lots

 

Aj Styles, Ric Flair, Rick Rude, Shawn Michaels, The Miz, John Morrison, Goldust (albeit it's a weird showman). There are many more I'm sure, I'm just lazy

 

 

AJ: Flyer or Shooter

Flair: Tech

Miz: Brawler

Morrison: Flyer

Golddust: Brawler

Shawn: Never a full fledged heel

 

Rude I could give you, But the only other 2 I could give you that were Heels are The Rock and Hollywood Hogan.... But no one else in OCW is that kind of wrestler

Michael Hayes anyone?

 

SHAWN WAS A FULLY FLEDGED HEEL YOU TWIT.

 

Plus if you havn't noticed, the majority of your apparent showmen were brawlers aswell.

Michael Hayes ? You aren't serious are you? Plain and simple 98% of showman were and faces.

Even if he was... Shawn was a Flyer then...

Michael Hayes ? You aren't serious are you? Plain and simple 98% of showman were and faces.

 

Just because he was a racist doesn't mean you can deny, that when the NWA was around he was a heel showman at the top of his game. Lex Luger was also a showman. Austin, Undertaker, Roddy Piper, Million Dollar Man, Randy Savage...

 

Do you want me to continue?

Flair is out and out a Showman. His whole gag in the prime of his career was that anyone could outwrestle him, but he only got by on cunning and interference from the Horsemen. This made people despise him and made him more hated as a heel, and he played it up perfectly. Most technical thing he did was the Figure Four leglock and he rarely won with the damned thing.

 

So is Miz. A lot of people could fall into two-classes, but their Charisma is what Miz and Flair play up the most. The fact that their style is leans in that way, you could call Hogan a brawler/power or Rock a technical/brawler.

 

A 'heel' Showman is someone who oozes Charisma and uses it to be a complete and utter hateable prick.

 

Me and Smythe were the examples because I really don't think we fit into anything else. You could argue Guy as Tech, or Smythe as Power, but truth of the matter is, Guy & Smythe's personalities are the most trumpeting thing about them, and neither of us really fight in such a way where those secondary traits would trump the Charisma.

Thank you Fausto.

Also, if Showman does end up being overpowered with the tweaks, I'll be quick to get it nerfed.

 

They're basically what Generalist was with extra Charisma, which from what I've seen, doesn't do much.

 

Of course, since we don't know everything about it's engine, there might be some stupid little perk that opens up at 90 charisma we don't know about yet, so bleh.

 

We are essentially balancing around something we can only decipher through anectdotal evidence and imperfect tests.