K.Dangelo Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 My thoughts .................. HOLLYwood you are good on the mic and getting allot better in the ring . You don't need OmG ? Awful name :p ,D.U.F is cool (even though I don't know what it stands for ). The Rising Sons The Japanese Suplex Machines are still the best ever inside and out ! #1 contenders for tag titles 3 things I noticed about Mugen .He wasn't really into the match .He needs Matsumoto at ringside . He's half of the #1 contenders for the OcW tag team championship ! Sean your punk ass wanna brag on one win ?! Raze bragged on one win then got murdered . Thanks for bringing out a more violent K.D . Dupree doesn't need Omg. Selfish bastard . Spider and Suda tag team Faces ! Frost save some for me . Hell for the right price I'll Nancy Kerrigan his ass . Trance and Mania was very good .I must have missed Trance first finisher(probably fixed me something to eat) but good win anyway .Wish you go back to having the Frog Splash as a fin. Code is freaking dangerous . OcW first Jewish World champion. Suda watch your language kids are watching . Pugh slap the hell out of Dupree ! Dupree slap the hell out of Pugh . Double dq and I smile . Suda and Leon very disappointing . Didn't mine the videos but there were too many . Suda if you or anyone else hovers or reverse hovers you CAN just let go . Suda you did like 107 running grapples the same one . didn't like it at all When my favorite OcW superstar Dimsmore speaks you punk mofos better listen . Pugh vs Hollywood was good . Coulda went either way . Don't know why I was pulling for Hollywood but nice ending . Main Event has no words wow lol . Parker someone hasn't in for you . Wish you go back to tope elbow as your finisher . Not big on you and that camel clutch . Can't wait to see what happens next week . Fav 5 Trance ,Hollywood ,Pugh ,Dupree,Jook ,Frost ,Mania and Code . 7 THE ALPHA ! Dorien Arnaud :1x Ambition Champion, 1x hardcore champion Kat : 1x BombShell Queen K.Dangelo : 1 TV champion 2x Hardcore Champion 1X North American Champion 2x Tag Team Champion, 1x Pride champion Espado : 1x Light Heavy Champion
Cody Storm Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 This was a very interesting Riot to say the least, kind of disappointed in some of the wrestlers individual performances/in ring-morals, but we'll get to that in the review: I've never watched someone fix their hair and just assumed they were getting ready for a fight. What a premadonna. This group is going to go down faster than any other group in history if Suda keeps saying things like "I'm the only legitimate champion here" right in front of newly crowned TV Champion, Michael Hollywood. I cannot see Mugen, someone who wrestles in simple black pants, wearing this over the top outfit xD. I hope Roofus kicks Dupree's ass one day, he's such a tool to him. While I highly doubt that Dupree invented drinking, since it's like all the earliest civilizations had to drink due to shitty water, I also don't see Pugh being able to outdrink him. It's the weekend and my brain is in off mode, I don't want to have to struggle through DUF RP's with all their big words xD. Wow, Suda really pissed off Spider, like, BAD! It was 200% just a few weeks ago. It was 100% two days ago, now it's 900%. Sir you are 10000000000% bullshit! And I think it's funny that Roofus admits he has to be drunk to go along with telling people that Dupree is better. Even the dimwit knows he's wrong. I liked the McGee/Frost standoff. But jesus, someone needs to get their spacebar checked xD. I don't know who stole McGee's belt, but they should give it back or he's going to do more than flex with those massive arms of his. Mania vs Trance was a match that I had a lot of fun watching. I also didn't realize until looking up Trance's song that it was also from Kevin Steen, I don't know why I didn't realize that was the case before now xD. Mania may have lost this match, but he took it to Trance. I'm amazed Trance didn't get hurt faster than he did. Also I think this shows how far back up Mania has come in his ring game. Trance.... I just want to kick your ass. And I can't wait until we meet for the International Championship, because I'm going to show you that you can't hang with The Son of God! I'm pretty sure Suda just agreed to marry Spider. I hope that's legal in Europe, I know nothing of their laws. This match demonstrates so many problems with how things are done around here sometimes that it's not even funny. You all yell at Leon for "always going over" yet Suda can't even go "under" (if that's a term that makes sense to everyone). I can't tell you the last time I saw him take a clean loss, he ALWAYS storylines his way out of it. It's why people are probably so taken with his character, because he may not be unbeatable, but he's been made to look unbeatable cleanly, and it's ridiculous. Not to mention the gameplay, how many running moves can one man attempt before his legs give out? lets find out 1...2...uh I'm not going to count this many, this is insane. You hover, you reverse hover, you run like a chicken with your head cut off. You're a great guy, talking to you is nice, playing around just for fun is nice, but playing you when it matters makes me want to pluck off my eye lashes. WOW, he just dusted one of our belts... Sean's going to kill you! The Goldust entrance fits better on Hollywood than I expected it to fit any heterosexual male. And of course Paul Pugh and his watered down looking hair, make their way to the ring in his fast paced entrance. As soon as I hear lyrics like "I hope my dick gets as big as the eifell tower" I mute the soundtrack xD. Jesus Christ Hollywood, have you not done enough corner moves yet? Do you want to hit another 10, or another 20 enzigiri attempts? I haven't seen enough of those yet either. Wow the ref was having none of EZ, I've never seen a manager get ejected that quickly. The ending sequence of the match was great, but that's about it. Pugh kicked Hollywood's ass and Hollywood spammed like he gets paid by the strong strike. Jook vs Dims, for all of the work Jookie puts into this show, I think Dimsmore should be fired if he somehow allows Marely to advance. I didn't realize Jookie had dirty pin, I also didn't realize Jookie could manhandle Dimsmore like this. This is like someting out of the Twilight Zone. WOW! Well that's all of this "most prestigious group in OCW history" out of the tournament. I find this ending very confusing. Didn't parker's entrance video just have this mask in it. Isn't that his trademark? I figured this would be his team if nothing else.... but clearly not. I hope this has an interesting story, it certainly has my attention in a good way as of now. Not a bad Riot, not a great one either. 7
Chris Mania Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 Writting a review on the sabbath, no wonder you pulled no punches... 1 EST. 2006 http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/Spoonermania/CFC.jpg - GET BEHIND ME AND SING, CAUSE EVERY HERO GOT A THEME SONG - http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/Spoonermania/the_steve_userbarcopy.jpg
Matsuda Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 This match demonstrates so many problems with how things are done around here sometimes that it's not even funny. You all yell at Leon for "always going over" yet Suda can't even go "under" (if that's a term that makes sense to everyone). I can't tell you the last time I saw him take a clean loss, he ALWAYS storylines his way out of it. It's why people are probably so taken with his character, because he may not be unbeatable, but he's been made to look unbeatable cleanly, and it's ridiculous. Not to mention the gameplay, how many running moves can one man attempt before his legs give out? lets find out 1...2...uh I'm not going to count this many, this is insane. You hover, you reverse hover, you run like a chicken with your head cut off. You're a great guy, talking to you is nice, playing around just for fun is nice, but playing you when it matters makes me want to pluck off my eye lashes. Not including my clean loss in the handicap match, I lost to Valmont clean three weeks ago. I think theres something to be said about how unbelievably difficult it is to win a match with a light heavyweight. They took out a lot of the mechanics that helped me out last year, the fluidity in off the rope moves is gone completely, which is why I am often seen running into the ropes and not doing anything due to unresponsiveness. The running moves are an over compensation for this, as well as the fact that people take advantage of my short reach. If I can't reach you because you keep backing away, and have no chance of winning a mash a grapple game, can you blame me for getting frustrated and running? What else am I working with? Nerfed grapple, strikes, all I can really put my champion points in is speed, which effectively does nothing whether its 80 or a 100. Agility, Adrenaline, Jump, and everything else I have decent stats in don't change anything in game. Aside from the fluke Jookie had today against Dims, what are the records of the Ex guys? Spider and Jookie hardly ever win, I've only gotten by on champ stats and play style. I get it, the games broken, but I'm not going to flee to the heavyweight division just because its easier to win. I guess I'm a martyr for that cause too. If you're going to take advantage of my disadvantages due to my CAW, I have to do what I have to do. 1
Cody Storm Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 I hardly count either of those examples as clean losses for the sake of a clean loss. A handicap match is a dirty loss from the get go because we had two people against you, that and you had rule constraints that kept you from pulling some of your usual stunts. And the loss to Valmont, at least in my opinion, had to go down as a clean loss in the midst of all of the yelling at him that was going on, or you would have looked terrible as well. On the subject of your running though, I get that. That all makes sense, but that doesn't mean it should be done to the extent that you do it. I'm talking about situations such as post reversals. There were four separate occasions or so in that match when you reversed a ground grapple from Leon and immediately went for that reverse hurricanrana spike. Situations like that don't require running because you have a window of opportunity already. And I get it that in that situation it's easier to do that than to go for a grapple that gets reversed 95% of the time, but that's the situation everyone is in, not just you, so it's irrelevant to this argument. I understand you should be running more than your average opponent, that makes complete sense. But I still shouldn't get the sense that I'm watching a ranked match or a tornado in the ring. 1
Matsuda Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 I hardly count either of those examples as clean losses for the sake of a clean loss. A handicap match is a dirty loss from the get go because we had two people against you, that and you had rule constraints that kept you from pulling some of your usual stunts. And the loss to Valmont, at least in my opinion, had to go down as a clean loss in the midst of all of the yelling at him that was going on, or you would have looked terrible as well. On the subject of your running though, I get that. That all makes sense, but that doesn't mean it should be done to the extent that you do it. I'm talking about situations such as post reversals. There were four separate occasions or so in that match when you reversed a ground grapple from Leon and immediately went for that reverse hurricanrana spike. Situations like that don't require running because you have a window of opportunity already. And I get it that in that situation it's easier to do that than to go for a grapple that gets reversed 95% of the time, but that's the situation everyone is in, not just you, so it's irrelevant to this argument. I understand you should be running more than your average opponent, that makes complete sense. But I still shouldn't get the sense that I'm watching a ranked match or a tornado in the ring. A clean loss is a clean loss, no matter how you feel about it. I was in an angle then, and could have had an interruption if I wanted, but didn't. Clean. And running from behind after a grapple is unique to my situation. I can't reach that far, even if I were to go for a regular grab, and there have been a number of situations where the guy got ungroggy before I could get to them to do the grab. And half the time where I would normally go for a rope move out of those situations it doesn't work. If you take away half of my offense from '12, and I am at a distinct disadvantage in regular grapples, factor in the fact that the fast paced offense is high risk with little reward, you should be able to start to see my problem. The only place where it is even a remotely even fight is Ex vs. Ex. Not to mention, running is completely reversible. I can't run on someone like Trance who can reverse 95% of things thrown at him. Its also preventable, as you know and have taken advantage of, I have weak legs which puts a stop to all running in 3-4 moves from a heavyweight. Which is another story in and of itself. I don't expect you to understand, the game is built for the Cody Storm CAW, but some of us have to go against the grain to accomplish anything, especially when you're in full competition mode for the tournament. 1
Illuminati Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 I could go on and on about the Ex "disadvantage" but I'd only be parroting what Suda has been saying here. The fact of the matter is that even if Spider or Suda get a majority of the offense in during a match we end up doing significantly less damage to a heavy opponent. Not to mention the fact that if I go for aerial offense and I miss/get countered the penalty, damage-wise, is much more significant than me reversing a grapple or strike. 1 http://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/234976199816773632/299960579206938624/image.png http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Award2k16/cyberbully2099.png
Parker Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 Cody pretty much stated exactly what I thought when I watched the Leon vs Suda match. I get your at a disadvantage etc, but on the subject of the running moves, I still honestly believe there is NO NEED to run at your opponent from 2 steps away..it looks retarded, and would rather see strikes close the distance than a 1 step run. The same with the cut scenes, the only 1 you needed was the last one with Spider. Leon was winning, so there was no need for Sean & Cody to come to ring side to hand him a chair...as you just kicked out and continued on like nothing happened...then I think they got ejected or something, then Dimsmore knocked Leon flat out with the head boot into the ringpost, 2 seconds later, he's in the ring fighting like nothing happened. I would much rather have seen a clean loss [and personally I would have thought more of it,because I honestly did think you cut scened it up because you lost, whioch might not have been the case, but it usually happens] and for the Spider cutscene to come after the match. And Jookie beating Dims is the biggest upset this year......WWE13....seems the sun even shines on a dog's ass somedays. http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5774/sig2uq.jpg 2 x Hardcore Champion (Longest defending OCW champ,19 defences) 1 x NA Champion 1 x Pride Champion 1 x TV Champion 2 x OCW World Heavyweight Champion F.I Winner 2012 MOTN vs Leonheart @ Wrestlution 7 'Don't worry about no one else, hows my hair look' - Tiberius Dupree 'Wipe you ass and go to bed' - Sensation to B17
Matsuda Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 Cody pretty much stated exactly what I thought when I watched the Leon vs Suda match. I get your at a disadvantage etc, but on the subject of the running moves, I still honestly believe there is NO NEED to run at your opponent from 2 steps away..it looks retarded, and would rather see strikes close the distance than a 1 step run. The same with the cut scenes, the only 1 you needed was the last one with Spider. Leon was winning, so there was no need for Sean & Cody to come to ring side to hand him a chair...as you just kicked out and continued on like nothing happened...then I think they got ejected or something, then Dimsmore knocked Leon flat out with the head boot into the ringpost, 2 seconds later, he's in the ring fighting like nothing happened. I would much rather have seen a clean loss [and personally I would have thought more of it,because I honestly did think you cut scened it up because you lost, whioch might not have been the case, but it usually happens] and for the Spider cutscene to come after the match. And Jookie beating Dims is the biggest upset this year......WWE13....seems the sun even shines on a dog's ass somedays. I'm aware that it looks dumb, but its a side effect of having a shitty game. When I'm trying to win more than I'm trying to make the match look good, I'm going to go for the move that I don't think he's going to reverse as often, especially if I'll have to do twice the moves to do the same amount of damage. They say it all the time, its a competition fed just as much as its a story fed. I didn't cut scene because I lost, as I said before, before we even did the match I told Leon we should get everyone involved. I know they could have been better, but the intention was to highlight everything that was going on outside of the match. Its whatever, I said my piece, if you guys want to discuss this one thing over all the other content on the show, at least you're actually discussing something. 3
Chris Mania Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 Errrr I hit running grapples etc from steps away, it's perfectly logical that you would move faster at someone from a close distance to further close the gap and get some momentum, watch MMA for proof. Anyway yeah I see where Suda's coming from, I've noticed alot of us heavies have switched up playing styles with ingrapples being easy to reverse, Ex guys got it tough but that's always been the case, ideally ex guys face ex guys with KoOCW and such SHOULD be the rare times they have to face Heavies... Shit wouldn't even have been noticed if Suda faced a fellow (non existant) ex. 2 EST. 2006 http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/Spoonermania/CFC.jpg - GET BEHIND ME AND SING, CAUSE EVERY HERO GOT A THEME SONG - http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/Spoonermania/the_steve_userbarcopy.jpg
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