Smythe D. Wonder Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Ron Portman doesn't even like Smythe... But you can't bite the hand that feeds... I judge my overness based on my legendary status. As well as the fact that I'm just better than everyone at this OCW shit!!! Really tho let's talk about this Riot matches ending on one finisher thing. I say double red = dead for Riot and Turmoil and once we get to PPV's we can talk about finisher kickouts to make it more dramatic. But seeing 2-3 kickouts per match left a lot to be desired. Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Bobby Minio Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I personally think the issue in pacing is more than just finishers though. I think the overall pacing of matches is the real drag. I actually pop for the kickouts after finishers or just seeing the finishers, but that lead up to it, outside of a select few people who sorta 'work' matches, it's really pretty boring. I wonder if there's stats that could be tweaked to sort of adjust the pacing of the match, similar to how people tweak the sliders in the sports games to change the way they play out. Then again, I do think it's valid to say that we can just skip around through matches if we're really that bored through them. No one is making us watch the whole thing. http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Awards%202k18/UpdateOTY18.png
Smythe D. Wonder Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 The matches won't get any faster. We can lower durability to make less mores end a match and then raise durability for PPV matches. Also when the EX division gets going again maybe the change of pace will make the matches more fun. Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
NOT Darin Charles Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Haven't yet played any matches and I'm sure the guys who have been here for years would know alot more about how the matches are dragged out. ..but playing 2k16 all the matches are pretty much dragged out with multiple finisher kick outs. I think only if it's setup for a someone to lose should they not kick out. But who am I too you guys buy a useless member.
Mr OOC Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 What most people don't realize is in the handbook we've said after you hit your first finisher, you can pin off ANYTHING. People seem to be stuck on the idea that you can only pin off of a finisher. Additionally, like it or not this is a COMPETITIVE league and the skill involved in kicking out is something we COMPETE in. If you don't like the way matches are playing out work to have more entertaining matches or like Bobby said skip to the end to see the finish/results. 1
Smythe D. Wonder Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Your opinion is as valid as mine as we're both wrestlers. My only issue with Finisher kickouts is it makes for crappy watching. There was a time when kicking out of a finisher wasn't possible. which meant that some matches were squashes. and you saw who the top tier players were. Which then made close matches much more fun to watch. Now every match both people are red and the winner is just the first guy to miss a kick out. The competition dies at that point and there's a blur between who's in the Main Event scene and who's in Mid-card hell!!! Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
K.Dangelo Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I do like double red no kickouts on riot and 1 kickout on ppv matches . unless it's a title match . THE ALPHA ! Dorien Arnaud :1x Ambition Champion, 1x hardcore champion Kat : 1x BombShell Queen K.Dangelo : 1 TV champion 2x Hardcore Champion 1X North American Champion 2x Tag Team Champion, 1x Pride champion Espado : 1x Light Heavy Champion
Bobby Minio Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 The Miniotes: Opening segment: Nathan Carter is going to run up against an opponent who's not going to put up with his particular brand of... peacocking. Jook is NOT that opponent. Crossbones vs Xander Rane: Crossbones looked pretty dominant at times but Rane earned his paycheck. Insane kickout at the end. Seriously nuts. Jookie segment: Raven is pink on the inside. Do with that what you will. Why is every Jookie promo this season set up like it's the last segment on a show from two years ago? "Whoa Jook you're still here?" Yeah Jim, the show started 20 fucking minutes ago. Or is that some kind of fucked up meta commentary on the flake stuff? Raze Wyatt segment: I miss army man Raze who was stalking people in bushes and all that nonsense. I sorta wish this promo was cut with Raze perched over Trance like Salacious Crumb over Jabba. Raze vs Bishop match: Let the record show when I clicked play and saw this match was 16 minutes long I shouted fuck and mashed my hands into my desk. Bishop looks like he knows what Nathan Carter's hang low smells like. http://blog-blogmediainc.netdna-ssl.com/upload/SportsBlogcom/1474622/0896437001434575110_filepicker.gif Just saying. Raze locked it down, not putting over new names this week I suppose. Ron Portnow segment: Speak of the couch potato. ... This segment. Well, at least we have some remote reference to the fact that this guy has actually been trained to wrestle. I thought we were supposed to just believe he learned how to reverse a neckbreaker while knocking tin on a roof or some garbage. Illuminati segment: Was the video supposed to be blank or...? Decent promo... what is the OCW fanbase supposed to adapt to though? AC Cobra vs Jook / segment: Oh sweet a minute long match... er... wait a minute. On a side note, what the fuck happened to Cobra during face morphing? Some angles look fine but during that entrance he looks like he's melting. Are the Family going to straighten him out for these comments, or are they toothless? Oh. Ohhhh. A video game promo... I'd pop for this if it featured some out of touch, Law and Order level dialogue referencing gaming. "Slamming dudes and shooting noobs" Phrasing. This gimmick is getting flat out X-Pac heat with me. I'm now rooting for the gimp. These guys would make a decent tag team with their matching boots. Nice to see the rook go over. Buddy Burns segment: Awesome segment. I do have a hard time believing security would give him an issue since everyone else seems to think Jookie just comes and goes throughout the taping. I guess he's sneaking outside for smoke breaks or something. GWAN!!! Thought this would end with Buddy jobbing to the security guard again. Smythe segment: Shocked to see we didn't get baited and switched with another member of the OCW custodial staff. He gave us all a new kind of OCW superstar, one who looks like at least four members of the roster! Is Smythe doing an Oprah gimmick at this point? "You get a roster spot! you get a roster spot! so do you!" Maybe Smythe is a big believer in "The Secret" where if you visualize and believe something long enough, it will come true. Monster segment: This cat is doing better "The Family" promos than The Family. I wouldn't mind seeing him steal the stable away from Trance at some point. Digging the back story and character so far. Only thing I dislike is the generic name but the character has easily made up for that. Matsuda segment: I feel like this really illustrates the difference of someone who is worthy of hype and someone who is just claiming they are. Suda feels like a real deal, over 'cool heel' character. He feels like he's over. Raze segment: Raze is all in on the Family cult stuff, and that's good, but I don't really remember progressing to this point and I suspect when it's done, it's not going to progress out of this. This is a man who's bought in hook, line and sinker into buying faith into a normal person, his peer. When that comes to an end, it's going to have to be big. Keep that in mind Raze. Normally when people leave cults they have to go through extensive de-programming rehab. Unless you start writing yourself an out, and hinting that Raze is bullshitting his faith. Mugen segment: This is my bad. I was supposed to write two bookending pieces for this that highlighted more of the Mugen and Minio phone tag while Minio is detained by Homeland Security. I'll make up for it, Mugen killed his portion though. I'll never shake a nickname like Tits Mandu. Sounds like a prequel era Jedi name. Buffness segment: So many of these segments are starting in dark rooms. Is that due to us having a lower budget? Oh it specifically is. I just got worked. Buffness is back. DY Nasty segment: Heeling out hard and promising to destroy the OCW. Jesus it just came back. All you have to do to kill OCW is let the entire roster hate the game released that year and let Jay get cucked out by some jumped up college protester. Pugh vs KD / segment: Was this show missing matches? Pugh cuts a meta promo about the content on the card. The Brits are scary good at kickouts. I wish that back body drop onto the stairs looked better cause KD had it lined up perfectly. Solid main event. Closing thoughts: I like seeing a lot of character establishment going down. Rooks are putting their work in on the card. People getting segments in without being booked and the roster feels huge. I'd still like to see some more feuds developing at this point but everyone is sorta doing their own thing so far. This show didn't feel like quite as much of a grind as last weeks did but it appeared to have significantly less matches. Some gimmicks are... kinda duds, but we'll see as they get more time to work it all out. 6 http://ocwfed.tv/recapppv/Awards%202k18/UpdateOTY18.png
Nathan Carter Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 The reviews of this show and the last have made me really step out of the box and look at how I play the game. This is a new thing for me and I absolutely love it. Honestly, it was getting boring playing the same 2 friends all the time. And this just took everything to a whole new level. Thanks for the input on my matches and RP everyone. 3
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