Parker Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 You cant pick up,toe kick finisher on red/orange, its only on double red. What exactly are you gonna do if TNA doesnt save you? still play this til 09 or go inactive? just curious. http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5774/sig2uq.jpg 2 x Hardcore Champion (Longest defending OCW champ,19 defences) 1 x NA Champion 1 x Pride Champion 1 x TV Champion 2 x OCW World Heavyweight Champion F.I Winner 2012 MOTN vs Leonheart @ Wrestlution 7 'Don't worry about no one else, hows my hair look' - Tiberius Dupree 'Wipe you ass and go to bed' - Sensation to B17
Vincent Valmont Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 Well, even though I'm powerhouse/tech, you will never see me use the style perk in a match, not rampage or tech sound. I do in DMS, but thats different. I find the perks to be cheap, and not needed. Hell, before 2k8 we was doing fine without them, and now that we got them, everyone making a big deal about them. I picked power with tech, because it fits my guy. I can't see myself being any other style, not even brawler, I didn't pick my styles based on what moves I got, or the perks that came with them. I picked on what would be right for my caw. OCW's 2008's Most Improved Wrestler 2x OCW Heavyweight Champion2x OCW Hardcore Champion
Leon Valentine Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 Well ive never used rampage to save my ass, but i figured since he hit me every other move with the rock punch, and rushed me, i said fuck it. Anyone plays me like he did, ill be rampaging out of finishers all day long. And no its not cause i lost, because i played trips for a warmup match, and had a badass battle, and still lost. But he had good "ethics" I thoguht it was sorta hokey bullshit that i owned his ass at the beginning of the match, and i turn yellow orange in like 3 minutes. Missed this post, funny how talking to you on aim a few nights ago you were pretty ok about the match accept you said after watching it you felt you got damaged pretty quick. Then one person says something you change you whole opinion and make it out that i broke FPR on you. I didn't know you could strike rampages which is my bad. I got out the ring to buy some time yeah since i was going to try an ariel on you but messed up and instead of climbing the turnbuckle i got back into the ring where i was ddt. Sorry not like i play rampages a lot but imo i didn't really see that as bad ethics unless i was running away from you all of the time. As for the rock punches i may have used them quite a bit, also lag made me do more than i wanted too, but you too used a few of your brawler strike combos so i didn't really see a problem there.
Smythe D. Wonder Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 Because there's a difference between using your perk for counter/pin purposes and straight up running out of the ring. And Smythe..who are you calling a jobber?! We cant all grasp onto the coat tails of a faction and get pulled along for the ride :) perhaps a misused word... but I really think you have to earn the right to do something as groundbreaking as no sell a finisher... point of note... another way to counter the Powerhouse perk after a finisher is to bloody the guy with your finisher IE what I did to Mayhem... I think it`s ok for Mayhem/Kage someone as huge as Ministry... to no sell a finisher once in a while... perhaps in PP matches only... I don`t mind someone Rampaging mid match... or using the tech perk... when I was playing Nate (who walks up to you the whole match)... he activated it.. and I thought he went into GOD MODE and I was like "and it`s over Nate has went into God mode" then you get that little sign after the perk ends... I`m like "son of a bitch"... you really have to know what your dealing with when your playing.. that`s all... and at the end of all this.... really... does anyone think Double A deserves to be in the FI match at lution after him being away for how long??? exactly... Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
The Air Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 Because there's a difference between using your perk for counter/pin purposes and straight up running out of the ring. Not really both can be categorised as cheaply. Now it wasn't a problem when Ryder did it and I didn't have any countermeasure at that time. He even let me out of it cause he thought it was cheap, but normally I would have won the match. I didn't need too perform two finishers on him. The only option I have is too let him stay on the ground for a minute untill the perk is over. Wow that's good for watching matches checking out a man standing still in a corner and one man laying down for a full minute. Matches would look so much better wouldn't they. So I decided too pin him anyway just for entertaining purposes eventhough he might have pinned me off on that. Now too Leon's powerhouse thing. Leon chose the only viable countermeasure he could think of. Now he knows that strikes can be used he would do it differently, but if you think that everything you throw at a powerhouse in rampage mode gets reversed and you cant reverse a thing, in that light it suddenly becomes obvious too run away, cause the other option is getting yourself slaughtered. Even though you can only get two moves in as powerhouse doing it well you can get your finisher up and end the match with that. How would that feel too the most of you. Not able too counter anything and lose the match just cause someone timed there perk right. Isn't that cheap! So is it strange in that spotlight that Leon ran away, me don't think so. So get over it! Also the point of limiting the powerhouse ability has been mentioned but some have immiditiately said no too this. So limiting showmenship before good tests were conducted making it actually usuals too use now was no problem, but suddenly powerhouse limiting is a big no. Biased! Or Limit too balance everything and not just one perk or let everything go free and see how it gets used. I think we should go over these perks more and check them out in the most bad way you can think of and see if its fit for ocw or not. About the rock punches Leonheart should limit them more. There annoying especially with lag. BTW agree with Smythe post above 2k8? I havent figured out 2k7 yet - Big Joe D I am the First Dutch EX-Champion - The Air I am the First European EX-Champion - The Air I am the First True EX-Champion - The Air Delusional? Not at all! I Speak the Truth, cause I can proof it and the others can't. Those Heavy !@#$%^&& ain't got none on me.
Parker Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 How long have we all had 08 now? I just dont buy that Leon didnt know about striking a powerhouse, sorry,but i dont.and Air, you could have stood in the corner and taunted til his perk wore off :) http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5774/sig2uq.jpg 2 x Hardcore Champion (Longest defending OCW champ,19 defences) 1 x NA Champion 1 x Pride Champion 1 x TV Champion 2 x OCW World Heavyweight Champion F.I Winner 2012 MOTN vs Leonheart @ Wrestlution 7 'Don't worry about no one else, hows my hair look' - Tiberius Dupree 'Wipe you ass and go to bed' - Sensation to B17
The Air Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 How long have we all had 08 now? I just dont buy that Leon didnt know about striking a powerhouse, sorry,but i dont.and Air, you could have stood in the corner and taunted til his perk wore off :) Fair dues! Though that would be cheap in my book taunting on the top rope corner waiting before his rampage went away. Anyway changed Air too Brawler instead of Showmenship, cause I felt it rather gave me a disadvantage then an advantage. I can now be more martial artist like I was on 2k6. 2k8? I havent figured out 2k7 yet - Big Joe D I am the First Dutch EX-Champion - The Air I am the First European EX-Champion - The Air I am the First True EX-Champion - The Air Delusional? Not at all! I Speak the Truth, cause I can proof it and the others can't. Those Heavy !@#$%^&& ain't got none on me.
Leon Valentine Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 Not really both can be categorised as cheaply. Now it wasn't a problem when Ryder did it and I didn't have any countermeasure at that time. He even let me out of it cause he thought it was cheap, but normally I would have won the match. I didn't need too perform two finishers on him. The only option I have is too let him stay on the ground for a minute untill the perk is over. Wow that's good for watching matches checking out a man standing still in a corner and one man laying down for a full minute. Matches would look so much better wouldn't they. So I decided too pin him anyway just for entertaining purposes eventhough he might have pinned me off on that. Now too Leon's powerhouse thing. Leon chose the only viable countermeasure he could think of. Now he knows that strikes can be used he would do it differently, but if you think that everything you throw at a powerhouse in rampage mode gets reversed and you cant reverse a thing, in that light it suddenly becomes obvious too run away, cause the other option is getting yourself slaughtered. Even though you can only get two moves in as powerhouse doing it well you can get your finisher up and end the match with that. How would that feel too the most of you. Not able too counter anything and lose the match just cause someone timed there perk right. Isn't that cheap! So is it strange in that spotlight that Leon ran away, me don't think so. So get over it! Also the point of limiting the powerhouse ability has been mentioned but some have immiditiately said no too this. So limiting showmenship before good tests were conducted making it actually usuals too use now was no problem, but suddenly powerhouse limiting is a big no. Biased! Or Limit too balance everything and not just one perk or let everything go free and see how it gets used. I think we should go over these perks more and check them out in the most bad way you can think of and see if its fit for ocw or not. About the rock punches Leonheart should limit them more. There annoying especially with lag. BTW agree with Smythe post above I do admit on 08 i do use the rock punches quite a bit, just unlike 07 grappling someone is so easy to counter so i try to find ways of connecting a grapple which usually is a rock punch then a slap to the chest and most times there still countered but yeah i suppose with lag it is quite hard to counter them. I'll cut down on using them and thanks Air.
Smythe D. Wonder Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 Limiting perks is wrong... 08 does require people to show a great deal of responsibility in terms of perks tho... for instance... every match I`m in I can choose to hit someone with their own finisher... once I have my flashing finisher... but I haven`t used it... I can also hide behind the ref anytime I want... haven`t done it... but I can also remove the turnbuckle... I do that all the time... and it sells... cause that`s something someone like me would do to gain the advantage... Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Leon Valentine Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 How long have we all had 08 now? I just dont buy that Leon didnt know about striking a powerhouse, sorry,but i dont. You don't have too but i didn't know you could hit strikes on them, sorry but most people i play with are usually a high flyer, brawler or technical.
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