Riot 7/24/08

[Adrian Bold]

Oh come on!

 

How many times has Anton been the centre of attention in the Final Act?

 

Now how many times has Anton been there just to back up Bold?

 

Think you'll find the numbers differ.

 

Anton was the center of attention when he debut against AJAX on amibtion to a huge suprise, AND THE HYPNOTIZING OF ARIES TO CLOSE TURMOIL! Don't discredit Reed or Anton they are both more over than you captain X-Pac. I always put them forward notice how I didnt step in with the tag match agaisnt bloodline because I wanted to see them shine? Don't kid yourself I always put other people over and then when it comes to the actual match I prevail. Trips seriously your not winning, just like in our match. I mean please you can barely get me yellow on the boards too.

[Trevor McManus]

Anton was the center of attention when he debut against AJAX on amibtion to a huge suprise, AND THE HYPNOTIZING OF ARIES TO CLOSE TURMOIL! Don't discredit Reed or Anton they are both more over than you captain X-Pac. I always put them forward notice how I didnt step in with the tag match agaisnt bloodline because I wanted to see them shine? Don't kid yourself I always put other people over and then when it comes to the actual match I prevail. Trips seriously your not winning, just like in our match. I mean please you can barely get me yellow on the boards too.

 

Bold lets leave it here.

 

People have said they want to get back to show discussing.

 

I'm sure that when we stop typing NOBODY will reply as there's never any discussion anyway.

 

But I'll leave it in saying to Jaysin that he should book Bold vs Trips 2.

[Adrian Bold]

You already had your chance and failed. Get in line. Kang is the man, remember that.

[Leon Valentine]

I don't see you discussing the show.

 

I started off by discussing the Bold/Guy issue to do with the show. Now my fault it ended up like this cause Bold likes to insult others.

 

I'm not but others are, but you are right i should reply more to shows but just never find the time to make a big review.

 

It's not just this Trips but mostly every show discussion always bitching, moaning and crying about something and after a while just gets really boring to read.

 

I mean is this what OCW has become that everytime Jay decides to make something we always seem to get garbage like this happening?

[Trevor McManus]

You already had your chance and failed. Get in line. Kang is the man, remember that.

 

I don't want your 2nd rate 2 bit title.

 

I just want a match.

[Kip Conrad]

Book It Jay!

[Nate Ortiz]

On Guy's matches thus far in the tournament he has not played perfect. I think anyone who's watched them all can see that. But neither have his opponents. There's been talk of a lack of strong grapples. From what I've seen they have been at about the same. Parker I believe pointed out the Poe match for only seeing like 1 or 2 strong grabs all match between the two. All of Guys opponents have played as bad as they say he's played.

 

This tournament was supposed to show who could come into the pressure situations play for the win and win without having to walk the grey line. And from the results of this tournament it shows that the majority has failed.

 

On complaints, If you have an issue file the complaint after the match. Don't wait till the day before the show, don't wait until the day after, don't wait a week after you match has been put on TV. Before even fileing the complaint you can talk to your opponent during the match or after about how they played. I know Guy for one has been fine to redo a match when you point out the faults he makes. I know because I've had to do it before. Sometimes people don't notice when they screw up. Next time folks if there's an issue bring it up sooner.

 

"Don't you start. This is not a "great opportunity" for me, it's what I had to settle for." - Trips

 

Sorry for this I am but I have to.

 

Ya know I really want to know what's with you and Leon every time he says something its a comment like this or calling him Leocwheart and other crap. Is it about him winning an oppertunity to fight for a contendership for the International title or getting a world title shot as the FI holder? Somthing that RD Money has also done although his contendership was for the OCW title and like Leon he lost that match but still ended up with a shot.

 

It's like you're upset that he got the oppertunity instead of you. When Leon got his shot were you not out of action a week or two for storyline purposes? So dosn't that take you out of the equation even if management wanted to put you in the match? Didn't you claim earlier in the year that you didn't want the oppertunity to go for the belt? January and February were perfect chances for you to attempt to make the move up but you didn't. You been the TV champ what is it 4-5 times. It not like you havn't had chances to do big things.

 

Being put against some of the best talent ocw has to prove who should get a chance to ME Summercide for the OCW title isn't a great oppertunity? You had to settle for it. What else was out there for you. I just wanna know.

[Kang James]

When TNT says they know drama they really don't cause they don't have OCW on TV some where.

[The Guy Fausto]

I'm gonna say this since I'm sick of the drama taking away from the discussion of the show.

 

I've always tried to be fair. If I do something that's shady enough to do a redo, I'll do it. I have lost matches because of this in the past, and I've been fine with it. I'll change my style to follow FPR more exactly: Look at the run complaints from earlier this year. That wen a grand total of two or three matches before I nipped that prob in the ass.

 

The main complaint against the Poe match was lack of strong grapples. If you look at the match, it is in no way from lack of trying as I do throw strong grapple attempts out there to either get reversed or land and reversed in grapple.

 

The main complaint against the Mace match was the smack the chair out of the hand tactic I used when he went for it. I apologized for this, it had no real effect on the outcome of the match ultimately (IIRC Mace was already red in the body before the Tilt-a-Whirl Backbreaker) Not to mention I went for and hit 6-8 strong grapples in that match.

 

The Bold match is the same. I went for grapples, but they were reversed. My low grapple account again, is not from no lack of trying. The fake whip thing was me correcting myself from whipping so much, since as Trips said, it's more of a weak stun grapple than a whip(not to mention one where you get 2 chances to reverse).

 

From what I've been told by Nate, all my opponents waited until Wenesday to say anything, thus making a Redo, if even needed, against Bold damn near impossible due to scheduling. Poe waited an entire week to say anything. Bandwagoning much? Under provocation from Bold perhaps?

 

I'll also add that none of my opponents said anything to my face. They went behind my back instead of talking to me face to face, which is cowardly. Those who have worked with me know I'm not a pushy or very angry person. I try to get along with everybody until they piss me off, and a few people just have.

[Wesley Adams Poe]

Um just to say my match with Guy, Only had two strong grapples cause he was the only one getting grapples off, when i attempted a strong grapple he'd usually end up getting his quick grapple or whip first cause of game mechanics. Honestly After our match i told him he had way better timing then me, because thats how I roll i try not to bitch about things, and try to find the light, when i made my complaint though, i saw the stuff happened kind of annoyingly in my match and maces, and thats what i based my complaint off of, after seeing bolds, i wouldn't say there was that much of bad play on guys match. And even in my complaint i said...I'm just stating my thoughts and if no action is taken i'm not gonna bitch or whine about it. The only reason i'm saying this is because i wouldn't say i play just as bad as guy in our match, if you're admitting he played bad. I'm saying i couldn't get any moves off because of they way he played. Which can be considered him outplaying me, or taking advantage of shitty game mechanics. But like i said i'm not mad i just want to point out i didn't play bad in the sense of being cheap or cheesey.

 

I think bold should start considering his title defense though...i don't know if kang is the man cause he has rrod buthopefully he'll be back in time, but stop worrying about this match, because fausto legitmately won, back in the day you were criticized for being cheesy yes and threatened to be fired, but absolutely nothing was taken from you for being that way, you didn't lose your opportunities or any of your previous accomplishments just asked to changed. So instead of focusing on getting your redo...even though it seems like there was two matches already. We might just want to be telling guy that it's not very ethical to play that way and that he should consider switching it up not to catch this flack, but i'm not looking for any redos of the tournament.

 

PS; Bold you couldn't get in our tag match cause only four people can be in an online game at a time anyway. Thq FTW.