Riot 9-10-2010

[Leon Valentine]

GET FUCKING BETTER AT THE GAME YOU FUCKING LIBERAL PUSSY

 

 

 

fucking excuse making pussies!

 

 

*edit*

you want the comp, get fucking used to it!!!!!

 

How are people pussies for calling out something that looked so lame and bullshit? I hope you were drunk when you put that because being the FPR leader that isn't very professional of you.

 

Now then lets take a look how Jay put this already...

 

Finishers & Kick Outs!

 

• When you have a Finisher ready be sure to give the player at the least 1 FULL second when stunning them to hit it. To allow the other player a chance to reverse.
  
• Once a finisher is hit, a pin was attempted, & the other player has kicked out.
  
• You the player after hitting your finisher has the right to try to finish the match in the best way YOU see fit.

These new finisher rules tell you that you the player to finish the match in the best way YOU see fit. It's common sense people really. I watched Poe vs KD and I honestly laughed. The fact some of you think that's all right makes me glad I am retired.

 

It's so easy for anyone to get a finisher by hitting a load of stun moves. KD hits his finisher fine but Poe kicks his ass then KD took an easy way out. So really he didn't end the match in a good way at all. It made the match suck ass and crap to watch.

 

Smythe you need to let the finisher stuff go. The being able to mash out of pins is gay but at the same time if your smart find a way around it or use dirty pin like I did. Ask Parker and Trevor about that since they kicked out of many finishers I have done in the past.

[Mr.Sensation]

Oh and if anyone is stupid enough to use the excuse its only because K.D won wake what it is the fuck up. K.D has had oppourtunity, upon oppourtuinty to make it big for himself.

 

The only reservation most people have about him is that he "Doesn't Get it". Hence why Smythe has gone out of his way to take him under his wing in an effort to make sure he "Gets it"

 

I mean fuck,

 

And contrary to popular belief, i want EVERYONE here to succeed. Because if I didnt want you to, why the fuck would I keep you here, when you can fuck off and do something more productive like wallpaper your bathroom, or beat up your kids, or jerk off till ball hair goes bald.

 

The point is I want you assholes to succeed "THE RIGHT WAY".

 

So get with the fucking program kids.

[Aries]

I have an idea...not sure how good it is. As a matter of fact, it almost pains me to even think of this, because I hate limiting the game...BUT, how about the bookers TELL people how many kickout attempts they're allowed? You know, like a booker in real life will discuss with road agents/workers certain aspects of a match?

 

For example: Parker has a TV Title match with oooh, let's say Carlos Cruz. Why not give Parker 1 kickout, for the simple fact that he IS a champion, but give Carlos no kickouts. Why no kickouts? He's just the challenger. His CHALLENGE is to beat Parker.

 

Another example: Mayhem defends the World Title against Smythe. I would Mayhem 2 kickouts, whilst giving Smythe only 1. Mayhem gets two, because he is the champ, and its the ME match of the card. Smythe only gets one, because, once again, ME match.

 

A lower card match: D. Jones vs. Jookie. No kickouts...at all. Both men are considerably new to OCW. Why would either of these men be allowed kickouts, let alone kickouts so early on in the card.

 

Well, I tried to explain it to the best of my abilities lol. I discussed this with Trevor, but the only problem I have, is again, limiting the game. I don't like it, but if it stops the bitching, I'm all for it.

 

This Riot was solid, once again, and I feel we need to continue this trend, WITHOUT the bitching.

[Parker]

I have an idea...not sure how good it is. As a matter of fact, it almost pains me to even think of this, because I hate limiting the game...BUT, how about the bookers TELL people how many kickout attempts they're allowed? You know, like a booker in real life will discuss with road agents/workers certain aspects of a match?

 

For example: Parker has a TV Title match with oooh, let's say Carlos Cruz. Why not give Parker 1 kickout, for the simple fact that he IS a champion, but give Carlos no kickouts. Why no kickouts? He's just the challenger. His CHALLENGE is to beat Parker.

 

Another example: Mayhem defends the World Title against Smythe. I would Mayhem 2 kickouts, whilst giving Smythe only 1. Mayhem gets two, because he is the champ, and its the ME match of the card. Smythe only gets one, because, once again, ME match.

 

A lower card match: D. Jones vs. Jookie. No kickouts...at all. Both men are considerably new to OCW. Why would either of these men be allowed kickouts, let alone kickouts so early on in the card.

 

Well, I tried to explain it to the best of my abilities lol. I discussed this with Trevor, but the only problem I have, is again, limiting the game. I don't like it, but if it stops the bitching, I'm all for it.

 

This Riot was solid, once again, and I feel we need to continue this trend, WITHOUT the bitching.

 

Thats a good idea, but then we have the problem of say You hit your finisher 3-4 minutes into the match, the other person isnt allowed to kick out..match over..which is kinda stupid.

 

But i do like your idea.

[Wesley Adams Poe]

Hmm So I've kept silent in this for a bit, but I'm tired of people trying to label Parker as a bitcher or a whiner when he's nothing of the sort, he's in fact discussing the show, He's not defending me or trying to tear down KD, he's talking about something on the show, You know we used to do that, pointing out what looked kind of shitty on shows, but because of the constant people trying to defend the shittyness instead of trying to fix it we get these arguments, so as a preliminary statement:

 

KD, I have no personal problem with you, I by no means want to redo our match, or discount your Win, You got a W in your Column over Wesley Adams Poe, Keep it, cherish it, It's yours, though I will admit alot of people have them now so it's not as valuable but as you see I submitted it for the show so it wasn't my intention to worry about taking it from you or anything. But as far as the match goes as a whole, as it looked; it looked shitty, and not just the ending.

 

So we start out the match a good reversal chain, in which KD gets the upperhand except I get in a quick grapple chop but afterword instead of KD trying to reverse my next move he backs up, or as it used to be called moonwalks makes me miss my initial strike and as i go for another, he reaches for a grapple making me tyler, and I'm out of an offensive position because i need to back up and reset, which I normally haven't a problem with backing up after a tyler is the rules but the point is it really wasn't my fault, and that isn't just a KD thing a good few other people moonwalk a bit too but we don't generally point that stuff out here in OCW anymore,

 

You know I know we don't have a DR rule anymore, which we can blame the game for that I suppose, but I agree with smythe it was a good rule, probably would have shut out the main controversy of this match, but If it wasn't for that being gone, maybe someone would have pointed out the blatant flatlining in the match. KD hit a good few moves on me at the beginning of the match, but shouldn't have been enough to have me hurting, lo and behold, after watching the match again i realized oh well most of those moves were focused on my body, All of the significant ones were besides two corner grapples everything else was a body hit, I remember when that was a problem in OCW but no one comments on that anymore either.

 

Ahh no i'm getting hit with a finisher, two body moves, go figure but thats okay because generally when you hit those moves is because you have a good feeling you're going to finish the match.Well that didn't happen or maybe kd did think he was gonna finish the match because he dragged me away from the ropes before hitting his spear, now i won't comment on that as a bad move because thats probably a game mechanic, he couldn't hit his finisher from there because of how the game works and if he could the animation would have set me in the middle of the ring anyway, but i remember a time when I was up for the pride title, and my win was slightly sullied because I dragged aries away from the ropes a bit to hit my finisher, you know when I actually had a chance of ending the match. But I took the comments on the chin, I understood what they meant, it made the match look unnatural I wanted to defend myself at the time but instead of that i decided to never do it again. You know that when we in ocw took comments on our matches and worked to make them look better instead of saying eachother was whining.

 

Ahh heres for the Dreadful finish. I don't know who alls played me, but normally when i get put in a submission the bar is half way up before you even start cranking, ufc and all has made me pretty good at swirling the joystick haha that sounds dirty, but in this case I was honestly flabbergasted that it was done and when I saw KD cranking i tried to get out but it was too late, I guess you could blame that on me though, however as others have pointing out deciding to end it that way made the match look terrible, I remember i was talking to KD, and I said to him, "Haha (yeah I laughed about it, I wasn't really that butt hurt about it I lost before) I didn't even know you could end it that way." and KD's reply was "Yup."

 

Now I suppose he wasn't lying, fact is the match looked like shit, while i was editting it up for submission all I thought to myself was wow, but instead of not submitting or crying to fpr I submitted it, cause while i knew the ending look shitty, it wouldn't have been the only one in ocw as it's been happening a little more often than it ever used to.

 

Now I'm not gonna start a State of OCW address or anything, certainly not my place to do so, but I will mention this place was the best when i joined, hell I was scared to join for the longest cause I was worried I'd mess up and get destroyed as a person. Everything was so crisp, clean and straightforward, but now with this new sense of "Comp"things have been a bit less fun,which isn't necessarily a bad thing, in regards to one thing mayhem is right, I need to get better at the game, but the fact that when I do have a decent performance when playing straight cause thats something i've always tried to do and and do as close as I can to the old rules and the new ones, mixing up my moves, not moonwalking, trying to reverse instead of grapple my way out of someone elses offense, yet I'm a bit punished because I won't just give in with everyone else and cheese that bit enough to win, is sad.

 

For alot of people all there is, is the win, instead of the story, the build up, the entertainment, and the prestige, If i just wanted to win, I would play single player all day because I whoop ass on there, and even still KD can Keep the W cause i've never been worried about it, see that match wouldn't have even happened if it wasn't for me wanting to have content and entertainment for the show, while keeping up my storyline, D.Jones wasn't replaced in that match cause he no showed and didn't get it done, it was pure story purpose that me and him didn't wrestle this week, but instead of leaving the show without a match.

 

I saw KD asking why he wasn't booked and he was wanting to be booked on the forum for the card,so I sought him out and said "Hey lets have a match, I've been mentioning the Darkside in my rps a little bit, so it'll make sense you might come out to shut me up or something if you had the chance." Another thing based on story. It wasn't an Oh I want to get a W in my column i've been losing too much, cause if that was the case I would have faced Dylan Jones, no offense to him, he's one of my favorite people here, but he's still green and for now, i'm better at the game, won't last long but for now I say i probably would have won that match.

 

In conclusion, I apologize this post was so long, but I didn't reply to alot, and even though while I was typing this the boss and leon served the purpose of this post in much fewer words, I worked hard on it damnit and I didn't want it to go unread, but get off Parkers back for stating the truth the match ended in a shitty way, He has nothing to gain from pointing that out so you can't say he's whining or complaining, this isn't an Attack KD thing because no one is saying "KD needs to be suspended or that match doesn't count." they're saying hey guys this is a shitty way to end the match, and very unentertaining to watch, Lets try not to do that anymore.(at this point it may become a rule but hey,thats only for the better.)

[Mr.Sensation]

Wall of Text Crits me for 8000

[Mayhem]

you know here is the deal

 

you guys complained about matches being to long

 

so we allow people to use their finisher when they get them. Not even to talk about how momentum is debunked this game.

 

Then we have the kick out issue

 

so we allow the assailent to end the match after he had nailed a finisher and a pinn attempt to the best way they see fit and if slapping a sub on makes MR: Button masher of the year tap out, then that's just how it goes.

 

 

 

 

Also what happened to fast pased matches and flow that everyone was full steam ahead about.

 

 

 

you guys seriously think you can handle The Morrison Method style of wrestling.

 

lol, shit w/e

 

 

 

 

 

Anyhow enough of this shit,

 

 

 

What happened to my page 4 & 5, I was really looking forward to some finished products moving into WEEK 3 toward S2R

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*edit- add*

 

 

I'm not deleting the above because i feel whole heartedly about compitition

 

 

you people seriously have a hard time about sticking to your guns about what you say as far as some of that.

 

Some people like the idea of this being a bit of a league as well as a RP Fed,

 

a ladder of winning, if you suck and lose you wont go anywhere. So you have to win to climb that virtual ladder.

 

but if you dont RP, it wont help you climb the ladder anyways.

 

what I feel KD did was a competitive move and finish.

 

 

 

I had a initial idea but when i read all of this it irked me so hard just because all of the work FPR has been trying to do for you guys.

 

I'm so fed up with turning the other cheek for some of this crap. you guys really have to realize both sides of this and not just one sided.

 

when we have situations like this it's

 

wah wah wah wah vs wah wah wah wah

 

and no one is willing to take a look at the other side of the fence. I'm not biest to anyone in OCW

 

I'll help trance out if I feel he is in the right, like say Ryder trying to kinda "Guilt" him into thinking I did something wrong in order to strike a RM, Trance really took a hard look at the match and said piss off.

 

^Haven't forgotten that.

 

thats the un biest eye of a situation that I am taking here

 

the point of all that FPR has done was to increase match speed and flow and to have a lot less micro managing to give you guys the freedom to make matches happen and move along nicely while keeping the element of the compitition envolved that for the past two three years has some what disolved and we are wanting to bring that back into OCW again.

 

So with certiant given circumstances of the game we apply newer additions on the structure of the rules to bring all of this to you for you to take into your own hands.

 

 

Unfortunetly we will have things like this where it will just frustrate indaviduals.

 

Well welcome back to compition, where you can actually lose if you slip up and think you've won the match before your arm is raised.

 

So I guess people can't handle the freedom

 

 

So now to my original idea where maybe some of you will get your klit out of a knot.

 

 

 

In refrence to the double red rule, we dont have siloutes with damage meters.

 

What still happens though is the player gets damaged and holds their stomach or head.

 

So we can propose that No finishers are to be hit until visiable exaustion of body damage takes place.

 

but where does that leave signatures??? IDK you tell me.

 

It's a huge grey area.

 

 

 

I still want my page 4 and 5 BTW

[Jacob Trance]

I hate when you guys use your crybaby antics to reason your foolishness...

 

The rule states once you hit your finisher you can end the match anyway you want... This rule sucks... I like the DR rule makes much more sense... This is the point I'm trying to get across...

 

People have kicked out of my finishers many times before Trance... But when everyone can kick out of any finisher... It makes watching matches look incredibly stupid... I undeestand people that suck need a chance to win... But this just isn't good to watch... He fact you guys don't see this makes me sick...

 

Again, you're a petty stupid fuck, who makes big claims, blah blah, say to my face lawl block. Shut the fuck up, and do your job. You were unable to kick out of moves despite being "far superior to me in everyway."

 

You are simply a bitter fuck. Now, let's use this energy to review the REST OF THE SHOW. There was a lot of great RPing work across this entire show.

[Smythe D. Wonder]

you know here is the deal

 

you guys complained about matches being to long

 

so we allow people to use their finisher when they get them. Not even to talk about how momentum is debunked this game.

 

Then we have the kick out issue

 

so we allow the assailent to end the match after he had nailed a finisher and a pinn attempt to the best way they see fit and if slapping a sub on makes MR: Button masher of the year tap out, then that's just how it goes.

 

 

 

 

Also what happened to fast pased matches and flow that everyone was full steam ahead about.

 

 

 

you guys seriously think you can handle The Morrison Method style of wrestling.

 

lol, shit w/e

 

 

 

 

 

Anyhow enough of this shit,

 

 

 

What happened to my page 4 & 5, I was really looking forward to some finished products moving into WEEK 3 toward S2R

 

Well said... Poe I wasn't refering to parker's mentioning of the match... When he went into the spheal about how I wanted the rule to change when Trance kicked out of my finisher... It's turned into a whine fest...

 

Either way... KD won this match the best way he saw fit... Whether people like it or not... Aries's idea is great... Only because it's what I suggested in the first place... If you get owned in 3 minutes so be it... I'll say it again, we need more rules not less of them...

 

Also the Morrison method of wrestling would be fantastic for OCW... But we can't get there if we want to play the exact opposite way... And then we're whining when someone uses the exact rules we all wanted in a match... I still smdh!!!

[Useless Dane Xavier]

*reads thread*

 

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*waits for last page of show*