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The no paint is a one off thing Trips :) as it was a street fight, i dont walk round the streets looking like that ...lol...and as for the Hardcore title,i feel i have taken the belt as far as i could, i had it long enough,i'm sure people dont wanna watch me wrestle EVERY week,so i felt it was time to see what others could do with the belt. I have definitly not thrown it in the trash tho, i feel like people are interested in the belt again,even if people were always rooting for somebody to take it off me, they were still interested in the Hardcore title, which i am proud of.

Fair point Ryder,that was unprevoked hence why i removed it :)

I wasn't blaming it all on you two,but You are a vet and should know better.I simply stated that you two played cheesier.

not watched all the show yet as i had to come to work :( But here are the parts i marked out on from what i have seen so far. SWO video....simply awesome,so much work and it looked fantastic,possibly the best edited video i have ever seen,i love those t-shirts..dam i want one. Death Row winning, the match wasn't great but they deserved it as Ryder and aries played cheesy as fuck, i think i saw 1 strong grapple attempt by them. Steven Jones music, always mark for that. also marked for his comeback against poe and vindy,but he was never going 2 win this as the numbers were against him and it was obvious they would break up his pin attempts. AJ Pheonix..please tell me this wasn't just a 1 off match.that intro video was sick. Fixxxer-I have no idea who you are but you sure look cool :) Kaang rocking the pimp suit. This match really took off when Kaang got his foot on the ropes,then AA reversed Kaang's finisher, edge of the seat stuff. Maniac kickin Bauer's head off. Bauer's gladitor helmet. Smythe's music made me lol Deano's new entrance music even had my wife lol. Valmont,this is how he plays when he doesnt record, he is a good player,all the matches he has jobbed in he has recorded,i recorded all the matches i have had with him so i know how he really plays,i guarantee we will see him winning now and maybe even dominating a few people. The videos b4 the Trips/MMM match. I love watching old stuff from before i joined OCW,i'm a geek like that, i like seeing how people's characters have evolved through the years. Nate/Kage was a classic also,the ending was great. I'll add more when i get home and watch the rest of the show. Another note...can some 1 explain the NA title match to me please...as i thought Solitary Confinement meant beong locked INSIDE somewhere,,but in this match you started outside the cell? was a let down for me personally as i was expectin something else. the,match was ok but the ending was basically trying 2 rush sum1 through the top of the cell in order to hit the finisher.That tackle and punches also looks ghey on Bold,he's way too big for that move.

I think 09 will pay exactly the same as 08,just with more moves

Dam it, why can't we mark out in these articles?

Holy shit, now this is what i'm talking about...AA vs Cross..mark worthy,ME=mark worthy,Strider vs Bold..hmm...will this be another Vega match up? lets wait and see. I'm also looking forward to my match with Kage.

er..Val..did i at 1 point mention me in that post? do dip shit, i just said that its fucking stupid to say that everybody plays the same as everybody else. think b4 u open ur fucking mouth.

Val, that could be the dumbest fucking thing i have ever read, your trying to tell me that say..Kage fights like Chino? what the fuck have you been watching the last few weeks?

The part Nate didnt like was the part Mace marked for..lol..it was supposed to be a 'you got up from the first one,try and get up from the 2nd one' kind of spot i was going for, as the 1st put him on special, if he didnt get straight up i wouldnt have hit him again.

Sweet video man, i dont think i have seen a bad video yet from Cross.

Thats a hell of a nice card, love the ME...and the return of EA is.....awesome

Cross, I think Smythe was trying to get at the fact that you picked somebody who Bold was guaranteed to win against, thats no dis-respect to Vega,it was great to see him back,but he is inactive for a reason,due to him not liking the game mechanics for lhvies this year. He is rusty and a lhvy,and against Bold, he doesn't really have a chance,where as Majin is champ for a reason,he's a tough s.o.b,who likes 08(i think) and plays quite a lot.Which made your match more credible. It was a nice win for cross,brutal match, vega with no paint makes me :( Nice win for smythe, he has nice momentum going into the FI match. Smyhte already mentioned about the amount of tylers in the Leon/Trips match, but i thought Leon would have won that. Bold still doesnt look right using the Deano elbow :0 he needs a big impact finisher as the man is a hoss. The ending to the ME was awesome.

i'll have 2 watch lution 2 as i have no idea where to put stuuf

Thats 1 hell of a card, and the graphics are cool.

I knew this was gonna happen, even tho me and Mace agreed to do it after lution..lol..seems all you gotta do is get a buddy to name drop and BAM! title shot handed to you.

Can't believe Bold cheap assed his way out of a legitemate loss. Was pretty dissapointed actually as it kind of ruined the match.

the end of the video was tight, big Headshrinker from Brad,sorry...Headliner, off the ladder! Smythe got punked..lol..nice work from all 4 guys.

Hell, 6 pages of discussion about a turmoil card, the turmoil show doesnt usually get this much discussion :) deathrow have my vote for faction of 2008 already,everything works so well,they deserve this match,its only 1 match and it mixes shit up.

Bold you monkey, take that shit outta your sig! i'm not sure what my record is since i won the title, i said its roughly 19-1...ass :)

I like how Cross says 'we' everytime he mentions the ME and he's not even in it..lol p.s.that wasn't a shot at you Cross, it just made lol.

Was the finish to the ME not against FPR? cant remember if the tech duck under is irreversible or not

Ahhhh...that explains it..lmao..doh, i thought if you were a lhvy you got that shitty rolling thing, but its only if you pick high flier, gotcha. thanks for clearing that up nate.

ahh...nice, respect to you man as i wondered why it looked a little jumpy.

Only seen the 1st 3 pages as i have had 2 come 2 work,but so far the matches have been tight, carlos aries was a very close match, i thought carlos was gonna win but aries pulled it out of thin air..these 2 should definitly meet again..soon.Aries impresses me more each time i watch him with his ability to control his rolling. Ministry pretty much dominated banjo for a good 3/4 of the match.by the time banjo made a comeback it was too late, the beat down after the match went on way too long..although you have shown me a nice new hardcore spot where you pushed him into the fan holding the guitar :) so thanks big man,i'm gonna have to mess about on 1 player and try and fins some more. Odd Couple vs deathrow was pretty good also, Dean messed up A-Jax badly at the start and seemed to get him orange really really quickly,the ending was a bit of a mess when the pin was attempted to be broken up,how the hell no1 broke it up i'll never know..lol..good showing by both teams, and the rp's from deano and nathan had me lmao again, they just get better and better. Blood Vs Ryder...not sure what was goin on in this match,blood dominated and the match should have ended after the pedigree,but instead it went on for nearly another 10-15 minutes and ended with a signature move..not sure why...dunno if you were trying to bleed all you could from the LOTR or whatever. but it was a good match to watch,ryder was never going to win this one. I'll comment more when i have watched the rest of the matches.