What We Lost! and What We Gain!

[Adrian Bold]

Because I offer you ant to push your storyline before hand and they tell me they want to do it straight up

[Jacob Trance]

Because I offer you ant to push your storyline before hand and they tell me they want to do it straight up

 

Stop stroking your ego, some of the things you do are fine, where as others are just fucking annoying. Rampaging whilst in control of a match for instance... That's just shit.

 

Some of your monkey armed strikes are cheap as fuck and for the record, I was one of the people that DIDN'T mention you in the survey. You can even ask Jaysin.

[Kip Conrad]

i personally dont like your attitude on the forums bold.

 

i also find it funny that bold got mentioned a lot it seems (enough for jay to make a post) so did d-jack it seems (enough for djack to get fired).

 

yet d-jack is fired and bold isnt?

 

whats up with that? not fair to djack really..

[Heaton]

D-Jack has done this shit since forever. Ever since he joined.

 

Then again, now that I think about it, Bold's been here a long time, too. NorCal Kid.

[Versus]

This was me:

" Bold skirts the rules, and hides his high damage moves by creating combos that cause significantly higher damage then someone who's playing straight up."

 

 

" Rampaging early on just to cut off someone elses perk is pretty shitty since it's pretty much a one way street."

 

 

 

Here's my example match: (just first 3/4 of the match, different things happen in different matches, but you deserve my reasoning.)

 

Bold/AMart - Riot - 5/15

 

First moves by you:

• Fury punch 1, try for ground grapple (reversed) -only problem is you're first set of moves includes a ground grapple. He's fresh, he's gonna get up quick.
  
• 2 quick grapple combo: fury punch, back club (= 16 dmg) ground grapple attempt (reversed more possible dmg, +20 at that point)
  
• kick out of a grapple (your grapple), then do the 3 strike move followed up by 2 ground stomps. What's the damage on that?
  
• Moonwalking a bit.
  
• You reverse a move, run/stop, ground grapple attempt (landed)- did you really need to get that damage? You already landed a reversal move.
  
• I've seen like 4 ground grapples landed and at least 7 attempts, and it's not even halfway through the match, try taunting a bit more if you're getting bored.
  

 

Rampaged reasonably early, when AMart was yellow head only, kind of early in the match, not necessary and unrealistic.

In rampage moves: (dmg not too high, but there's more to my logic)

Taker arm wrench - 12

Ground grapple - head grab n throw probably a 10 or so.

So 22 unblockable dmg points because apparently you reversed his grapple, and for some reason, got enraged. Remember, we're trying to make these matches interesting and a bit realistic. Getting angry for accomplishing a reversal makes no sense, save it til you get up from a big move later on in the match.

 

You grapple when you're almost on the other side of the ring. Wouldn't be a problem if you weren't build like a Cadillac. So you grapple, and if they're even 1 ft. off the ropes, you're getting them. Once again, not breaking the rules, but more a 'awww, come on...seriously? You're gonna sit over there and do that?" thing and something your opponents should be aware of.

 

My basic thing is, I like to keep my matches realistic. I also, try to save some of my moves for later on during the match, instead of landing each of my 4 quick grapples 80 times over the course of a 10 min match. I'm saying, you're a big guy, you have damaging moves, not just your standing grapples. There's no need to combo up that much damage when you can reverse as well as you do.

[Heaton]

I get pissed off when I reverse something. Dunno about you, Versus.

[Versus]

i personally dont like your attitude on the forums bold.

 

i also find it funny that bold got mentioned a lot it seems (enough for jay to make a post) so did d-jack it seems (enough for djack to get fired).

 

yet d-jack is fired and bold isnt?

 

whats up with that? not fair to djack really..

 

Bold writes/creates his ass off. That's the difference. I've attempted to give DJack the rapist gimmick, as at least something. I even offered to help him create a new character, but he wasn't budging. He just wanted to try to force feed DJack to everyone, but nobody wanted it.

 

Final thing is, DJack had 3 years here, and did nothing with it. Tell me...who's fault was that? If, in a lil while, he want's a fan account to prove he can be an active member of the community, I say go ahead. And if he contributes consistantly for a little while, why not. Give him a chance. But if he sits stagnant again, adios.

[Adrian Bold]

whats the difference between 2 strikes and a quick grapple to what I'm doing? I got it though. I just hope when I clean up to the point of perfection i dont get jewed by trips on a mission not to fail.

[Smythe D. Wonder]

I said nothing that I haven't said countless times before...

 

also if you look in the show thread that you beat me in... I said you played amazing... and Nate Ortiz himself couldn't beat you when you were reversing like that...

 

I tipped my hat to you when you beat me... and complained about nothing...

 

I can't stand your moveset I've said it many times before... you have RD's straight punch (Brawler)... the quick backchop (tech) and the axe handle smash (powerhouse)... then you have the running quick clothesline (L Hvy)... you rampage in the beginning of matches... or when your already miles ahead in the match... with no effort to make the match look realistic or sell anything during the match... you have the Cena flipslam... the atomic drop... you used to use the People's elbow... it's just terrible...

 

and you know this... cause I've said it before... MAY TIMES... I don't think you flatline... I thought it was trash that you use an 18 dmg move in a title match with parker.. then lose the rematch and complain for a third match... in which you did flatline to win the NA title... but IMO you should have never gotten a title shot with your ethics and your crappy moveset...

 

in a Bold match we are not seeing a character in the ring... we are seeing every advantagous move in the game on one CAW whether it fits your style or not...

 

I heard you complained about your loss to Kage... after refusing to work an angle with him... you are good at the game... but you hide it behind so much cheese...

 

obviously something has to be done... reevaluate your character... create a moveset that fits his gimmick... and win matches that you'll get credit for...

[Kip Conrad]

we all want to win and this is a league, it seems his(bolds) ethics fall on the side of "i do this i can still win and its not againts fpr" where someone else would say "i can't do that i would give me and advantage and i'd rather have a good match instead of win"

 

2 different mental ideas will equal different results in situations.

 

there is not a rule in fpr for example that stats with in 7 knockdown's you can't go for 3-4 ground grapples. that ground grapple example is not against fpr some will say its bad ethics but others will say "hey i want to win and if he doesnt want to get hit with a ground move he can reverse." some say its ethics but that is coming form people who maybe don't come from or have that same competitive background as someone like bold and would rather want ethics to be the key in thier rmatch.

 

this is to big of a grey area unless fpr can iron out specifics you can't really say he is at fault for being competitive and following fpr rules in a "League" because maybe the guys who stand so strict to ethics are on the wrong side instead, maybe they should be more aggressive and what not instead of bold having to tone down.

 

 

just tyring to see both sides.

 

if all we care about is entertainment then lets just have pre-determind winners and turn into a real wrestling fed? But if we still want the competitive edge then we need to figure ethics out.