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This is a completely unfounded assumption/accusation/whatever you're doing here. When, since winning the title, have I tried to place blame on anyone working with me for any complaints against the story I've been involved in? (Minus the six man tag not getting done, I blame Wheeler's internet company for that!). I'm the World Heavyweight Champion and as such, if people don't like my storyline and I think their complaints are legitimate I'm going to take responsibility for them. It comes with the belt I think. You're pulling at scraps to try and bash me man.

 

Look at it from a logical stand point for a "fan". Cody powerbombing his mother means nothing to me - i dont care about this bitch, i've never seen her before, i'll likely never see her again. Cody bringing in two randoms means nothing to me - I don't know who they are. Neither of these actions do anything as far as selling Cody vs Tobin for the World Title goes.

 

The storyline should, without compromise, sell the match to me. The kidnap helps enhance Tobin as a man on a mission and Cody as a calculating man (albeit not to my tastes). Cody powerbombing some woman doesn't enhance him as a heel - she's just some woman. It doesn't enhance Tobin as a face in this instance.

 

I think you're tacking things onto your character way too fast, and its hurting the actual build of the actual match. Character development should happen over time (The criticism of you originally was you'd been here years and not developed at all) and I feel like you're trying to make up for lost time. When people become World Champion, they've usually had a year or two of constant feuding, constantly developing, constantly improving, and you just haven't had that, so it feels like you're trying to over compensate.

 

I fully stand by my original point that there are too many bodies in this feud. This is Tobin Frost, a man who has told us for a full year that he will be World Champion getting a shot against a man who is desperate to hold onto it. Its that simple. It doesn't need 8-10 random new NPCs/characters involved.

 

Its one on one for the biggest prize imaginable on the biggest stage. As simple as that. Doesn't need to be this complicated.

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But everything I've done has been reinforcing the exact description you've given of my character: "a man who is desperate to hold onto [the title]" I brought in D and Wheeler to help secure the belt around my waist while giving some BS excuse that they were here to help prevent me from getting screwed.

 

I powerbombed my mother. If you need to know anything else about who she is to see why that matters I question your humanity damn it!

 

But for real. I took a shot to get Tobin to throw the match. Tobin struck back. He tried to get back his mentor and shatter my entire image of myself. I held strong to being the Son of God, but obviously I'm not happy about what went down so now we have two more weeks of trading shots until we settle it all at Lution, where who knows what I'll pull to keep my title?

 

Either way, all you did with that post was change the subject. Just because you think I'm diluting the story, doesn't mean I'm trying to absolve myself of any blame if people don't like my story. You're trying to put a motive with an action and you're wrong.

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I understand what Pugh is trying to say. If you're going to bring someone in, say a family member, and you want that shock effect when you hurt them; you should build it up. Bringing someone in, destroying them, and then they're never to be seen again...what did it really accomplish?

 

On the other hand, I know what Cody wants. He wants to come across as this scumbag heel who will powerbomb his own mother just to be a scumbag. He wants to flesh out his character. Develop himself into something he wasn't before. I think it still could have used a bit more build up, but with Lution being three weeks away, I don't really see him having a sufficient amount of time to build up any solid character development. I did enjoy the ending though.

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Pugh it's your fault for losing the title to Code so you can only blame yourself .
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Just for the future, with an angle like this, build the babyface (the Mom) once or twice and then it makes this perfect execution. Sure, a Mom is a trump card to get heat, but you could milk it up a bit. She only exists to be a bump. She's a crash test dummy. It's unexpected and horrible, but if the reader has a frame of reference for the character and her relationship with Cody, you wouldn't just have heat for the moment, you would build heat with the reader for swerving him.
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Either way, all you did with that post was change the subject. Just because you think I'm diluting the story, doesn't mean I'm trying to absolve myself of any blame if people don't like my story. You're trying to put a motive with an action and you're wrong.

 

If you're carrying the storyline alone (No interference from anywhere else) then you only have yourself to blame if it blows up in your face. When other cooks start throwing stuff into the broth you find yourself with things to hide behind. It's easier to talk your way out of a "failure" if there are other people who contributed to it failing.

 

Take the 6 man, you just said it didn't work because of someone's internet. It didn't work because you didn't plan it right. You should know that with the servers, people's availablity etc, Six Man's can take longer than 5 days to get done. Thats why when we book them, we book them in advance in order to avoid the failure.

 

You'll never accept anything I say to be correct because you'd argue with me if i said the sky was blue because you're a victim. You need to understand that ultimately you're supposed to define the World Title, it isn't supposed to define you. You should be driving the show and you should be making sure that you sell the World Title match as best you can.

 

You're supposed to be the best. Prove it. Think ahead, know where you're going weeks in advance. Know what comes after Lution, know what comes all the way up to Summercide. Plan ahead and theres never failure. Use the strengths of the people you're working with and always have a plan B, then a plan C. Adding random wildcards every other week doesn't help anything.

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Just for the future, with an angle like this, build the babyface (the Mom) once or twice and then it makes this perfect execution. Sure, a Mom is a trump card to get heat, but you could milk it up a bit. She only exists to be a bump. She's a crash test dummy. It's unexpected and horrible, but if the reader has a frame of reference for the character and her relationship with Cody, you wouldn't just have heat for the moment, you would build heat with the reader for swerving him.

 

I could see people feeling that way, and in hindsight it probably would have helped. I still think it was effective though. I remember the first time I saw Cena's dad on TV was when Orton punted his head off and I still dropped my jaw

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Pugh it's your fault for losing the title to Code so you can only blame yourself .

 

I'm sorry KD, I blame myself for losing to Cody. I should have gone with the plan.

 

I can't take the blame for the thirst or the subsequent meh though.

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If you're carrying the storyline alone (No interference from anywhere else) then you only have yourself to blame if it blows up in your face. When other cooks start throwing stuff into the broth you find yourself with things to hide behind. It's easier to talk your way out of a "failure" if there are other people who contributed to it failing.

 

Take the 6 man, you just said it didn't work because of someone's internet. It didn't work because you didn't plan it right. You should know that with the servers, people's availablity etc, Six Man's can take longer than 5 days to get done. Thats why when we book them, we book them in advance in order to avoid the failure.

 

You'll never accept anything I say to be correct because you'd argue with me if i said the sky was blue because you're a victim. You need to understand that ultimately you're supposed to define the World Title, it isn't supposed to define you. You should be driving the show and you should be making sure that you sell the World Title match as best you can.

 

You're supposed to be the best. Prove it. Think ahead, know where you're going weeks in advance. Know what comes after Lution, know what comes all the way up to Summercide. Plan ahead and theres never failure. Use the strengths of the people you're working with and always have a plan B, then a plan C. Adding random wildcards every other week doesn't help anything.

 

I won't plan that far ahead because that's not the kind of title reign that I want to have. That's the kind of reign that I dislike because in my eyes it leads to too much story over competition. I don't want to have a plan all the way to 'Cide because that would require me to have a contender picked out already (assuming I'm still champion that is), and I don't want that. I want to be told who the number one contender is from management and build a story after I find out.

 

I understand you saying that I should have multiple plans so that I can use whichever one fits best, and that's probably a good idea. But in my ideal world, I'd like to retain at Lution, and I'm not the kind of person who plans on losing. Which I totally get how to some that could be seen as being under-prepared.

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-I really like Cut Throat's style, I'm a pirate mark so it could be awful and I'd still approve but I love where he's going with it. Also really dig Bobby's look.

 

-Enjoyed the bombshells match a lot. Good back and forth with a few interesting spots.

 

-I MUST KNOW WHAT A.C. STANDS FOR!

 

-My god Lindsay is dead.

 

-Had a good time facing KD. Servers weren't being very kind to us last week but despite a bit of lag in some spots I enjoyed my first taste of what OCW's style is like.

 

-Tobin has lost it bah gawd.

 

-Solid match by Cut Throat and Power Nation, pretty clean looking.

 

-I don't think I'm drunk enough yet to handle that OMG segment.

 

-Liked Trance's use of toy soldiers, made for an interesting visual in the point he was trying to get across. Loved the match with DRAAAAGGOOOOOOOOO!!! as well, very close and dramatic.

 

-For only seeing about two shows so far and not knowing everything about it, I'm enjoying the Jay-Leon feud so far. Very interested in how it will play out.

 

-I've known Cody for around 7 years now so I'm definitely biased but this is some of the best written work I've seen from him. Like some have said this feud has a lot of added props like myself and D, Sam and now Cody's mom, but I think every piece makes sense for the story that's being told.

 

Cody's mom is a MILF.

 

This.

 

Really enjoyed this Riot and can't wait to see what happens next week.

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