Nathan Gaines Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Look something I"m going to elaborate on from Guy and Kage is creativity and taking pride in things that are done without a necessary reward. Creativity is contagious. When I was hear and I know it's a huge joke its the fueds of ToP and Rev Inc that inspired me to put together the Militia. Its stuff that other people do or stuff that's going on in wrestling or even in Real life that you can spin and use your wrestler and an opponent to tell that story. To make people feel "it." The second part of my small response is effort without reward. Everytime I see Trips post it's about the belt...the belt this the belt that. Honestly what does the belt give you? It's a fake belt that doesn't exist. It's not going to get you laid, it's not going to get you a great job, hell it's not even a resume builder. If it was Nate would be President. Everyone here seems to feel that if their fued isn't featured in a Main Event then what's the use. I'm going to use myself as an example but there's also numerous other guys that used to be here that did the same. What made OCW great back in the day was the Main Event fueds AS WELL AS the subsidery fueds. Matt Wilson and I fued for the first time after both us were looking to move up a ladder. WE were able to work well together and create somethign that the community took notice of. Was that great absolutely, but it made it fun to have someone you could feed off of. Our "1 month" fued lasted 3 months and created a rivalry as well as a friendship. Hell our characters ended up spinning off one another, and Nathan Gaines ended up marrying Matt Wilson's sister. In general it was a top to bottom card that helped make OCW thrive. And it was helping one another. Hell during certain fueds I'd talk to Versus and Kage and Steve just on creative input. THEY WEREN"T EVEN IN THE FEUD I talked to them about. It was all about helping people, and that will never ever happen here again unfortunately. Part of it is the members that are left and just the overall culture, and part of it is the fact that we don't have an influx of GOOD talent. It's a sad day but the glory day and the old guard days are gone. I'm not stupid enough to put myself in the league with ToP and Rev Inc guys and RD Money but I the days of a strong mid card are way gone with guys even like Bold Mania and so many others gone away LocoNY911: I hate you with every fiber of my being just looking at your name makes me want to strike my monitor
Karim TGO Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 **Sigh** http://www.barcelonareporter.com/img_uploads/Cyber_bullying_2010.png Dane Xavier: Cyber Bullying is not only illegal, it's pathetic. ‘Because I’m so well dressed, people think “He must be gay. Look at his haircut, he must be gay. Look how sensitive and vulnerable he is, he must be gay.” That means women feel safe around me. They trust me. Then bang! Pregnant! Bang! Pregnant! Bang! Pregnant! Another generation. We continue.’
Casey Paine Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Alts. Alts kill ocw why? because you can not focus on one character and make then interesting when you are working on 2 or 3 half ass ones. LIES !
Trevor McManus Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Nathan the belt is an important part of OCW. The belt is supposed to matter, when it doesn't matter there's issues. That being said. I do tend to focus too much on the belt. And although I'm still disappointed at the way things went down when I 'lost' the belt and as much as I hate and I truely mean HATE to admit this, Kage is right. We have to stop arguing over everything, at least till we're strong again, when we're strong again you're all cunts again. But for now I'm going to focus on working WITH people rather than AGAINST people. http://positivesharing.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/complaining.jpg [23:39] locoNY911: You get solace in the fact you arent a fuck up. 2k9's better than 2k8. Like being shot in the knee is better than being shot in the head. - Guy Fausto [18:40] locoNY911: I mostly aggree with your statements
Smythe D. Wonder Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 first of all I think having a show every other week would be a good idea for OCW... we have about 15 active wrestlers... so let's put good shows together every two weeks instead of sub-par ones weekly... and let's see if we get more effort if there's less time to commit... I also have a different view of what's wrong with this place... I think this place lacks the authority it used to have... and matches have 100% less meaning because nowone is watching all the kinks and whistles of what OCW is... OCW was built around FPR... playing in OCW was more of a standard set of rules and regulations making it a competitive league... people who couldn't follow the rules were fired... and it was pressure cause every match everyone watched and if something was wrong it was discussed... and suspensions were handed out and the people that moved up were the people who entertained while following the rules while being in feuds... OCW now is people RP... they get title shots... they play to win... alot of movesets are outright awful... hoss characters with Chain attacks EX guys with 8 and 9 linking moves... sigs that are embarrassing... point is with nowone to monitor things everything sucks... Also Valmonts title win was awful... should never have gone to TV... but it did... and the world title has zero relevance... Aries's character is too boring to hold the World title... Leon is too Orton to be interesting with the title... currently our only credible World Champion is Fausto... which is outright insane... having only two titles is also a point for a lack of interest.... the Hardcore and eX titles need to resurface... OCW has a lock of effort stemmed from a lack of talent... I think the true fans of the storyline element of wrestling are gone... of the Main eventers that made this place we only have Fausto and sometimes Nate that are still around... those guys loved storyline driven wrestling... we used to argue about wrestling all the time... there's never an argument about wrestling anymore in OCW... anyway I think we should do two maybe 3 shows a month... and get everyone involved in some kind of feud... make shows watchable... STOP TALKING ABOUT RESULTS... and watch shows!!!! that is all Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
NOMAD Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 first of all I think having a show every other week would be a good idea for OCW... we have about 15 active wrestlers... so let's put good shows together every two weeks instead of sub-par ones weekly... and let's see if we get more effort if there's less time to commit... I also have a different view of what's wrong with this place... I think this place lacks the authority it used to have... and matches have 100% less meaning because nowone is watching all the kinks and whistles of what OCW is... OCW was built around FPR... playing in OCW was more of a standard set of rules and regulations making it a competitive league... people who couldn't follow the rules were fired... and it was pressure cause every match everyone watched and if something was wrong it was discussed... and suspensions were handed out and the people that moved up were the people who entertained while following the rules while being in feuds... OCW now is people RP... they get title shots... they play to win... alot of movesets are outright awful... hoss characters with Chain attacks EX guys with 8 and 9 linking moves... sigs that are embarrassing... point is with nowone to monitor things everything sucks... Also Valmonts title win was awful... should never have gone to TV... but it did... and the world title has zero relevance... Aries's character is too boring to hold the World title... Leon is too Orton to be interesting with the title... currently our only credible World Champion is Fausto... which is outright insane... having only two titles is also a point for a lack of interest.... the Hardcore and eX titles need to resurface... OCW has a lock of effort stemmed from a lack of talent... I think the true fans of the storyline element of wrestling are gone... of the Main eventers that made this place we only have Fausto and sometimes Nate that are still around... those guys loved storyline driven wrestling... we used to argue about wrestling all the time... there's never an argument about wrestling anymore in OCW... anyway I think we should do two maybe 3 shows a month... and get everyone involved in some kind of feud... make shows watchable... STOP TALKING ABOUT RESULTS... and watch shows!!!! that is all I marked for the points in green..well said Smythe [Aries is retired now tho so that's a moot point, but your right about Ortoheart] :) 1 x International Champion 1 x Tag Team Champion
Iceberg LeTuce Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 If Aries feels he has ran out of ideas for his character then why doesnt he just bring in a new CAW or a new gimmik?
Jacob Trance Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 I agree about the movesets, a lot of them are bloody retarded. I've changed mine lately to compete with the current main event style of CHAINS. However, through this I've discovered a few little spots that can be easily incorporated into my match.
Vincent Valmont Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Although, I agree with most of what Smythe viewed his opinions on, but... Also Valmonts title win was awful... should never have gone to TV... but it did... and the world title has zero relevance... Unfortunately, I'll have to strongly disagree with this statement, and anyone who thinks this. ^^^ OCW's 2008's Most Improved Wrestler 2x OCW Heavyweight Champion2x OCW Hardcore Champion
Craig Casey Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Also Valmonts title win was awful... should never have gone to TV... but it did... and the world title has zero relevance... Me thinks this... http://i43.tinypic.com/5fiyk7.gif
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