Leon Valentine Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Just to let people know... World Heavyweight Title > OCW World Title. United States Title > NA Title. ECW TITLE > TV Title. CW Title > EX Title. Just something i saw but that's the belts you should be using from now on champs.
Chris Ryder Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 You know, since I woke up this morning, I've been hearing quite a few people claim I don't deserve to be the OCW Champion, that I don't do much, that I'm not active enough. Well you know what? Fuck you. I had one of the best matches I've ever had in OCW, with someone who I can honestly say has been one of the best OCW Champions of the past two years. We were pushed to the fucking limit, we hit our finishers, we BOTH kicked out of those finishers. We gave OCW what it needed, a true, out of the blue, main event match. But there are people, who won't see it as an epic bout, they won't see this as a brilliant match, because their too busy claiming I didn't deserve the chance to win the belt. When half of these people don't do jack shit themselves most of the time (Don't think I'm pointing fingers at anyone in particular, because this goes for a few people). So again, anyone who says I don't deserve to be OCW Champion, look at that match from start to finish, and then say I don't deserve it. Because if you still feel that way afterwards, you're clearly bitter and talking out your ass. Now onto the show itself. This show was without a doubt fantastic, every match turned out great in my eyes (though the opener was a bit dragged out), there wasn't much FPR breakage, nothing to truly complain about, there were also a lot of Roleplays, which is a sign that people are really getting into writing material again, which is always good. Overall, a ncie way to end the 2009 for OCW. But tonight marks a new era in OCW, a big change has taken place, and I'm proud to be leading this change into 2010. Finally, if this show wasn't enough of a sign, I AM 100% active, you WILL be seeing a lot more of me in the future, so sit down, shut up, and stay tuned.
Aries Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 You know, since I woke up this morning, I've been hearing quite a few people claim I don't deserve to be the OCW Champion, that I don't do much, that I'm not active enough. Well you know what? Fuck you. I had one of the best matches I've ever had in OCW, with someone who I can honestly say has been one of the best OCW Champions of the past two years. We were pushed to the fucking limit, we hit our finishers, we BOTH kicked out of those finishers. We gave OCW what it needed, a true, out of the blue, main event match. But there are people, who won't see it as an epic bout, they won't see this as a brilliant match, because their too busy claiming I didn't deserve the chance to win the belt. When half of these people don't do jack shit themselves most of the time (Don't think I'm pointing fingers at anyone inpaticular, because this goes for a few people). So again, anyone who says I don't deserve to be OCW Champion, look at that match from start to finish, and then say I don't deserve it. Because if you still feel that way afterwards, you're clearly bitter and talking out your ass. Now onto the show itself. This show was without a doubt fantastic, every match turned out great in my eyes (though the opener was a bit dragged out), there wasn't much FPR breakage, nothing to truly complain about, there were also a lot of Roleplays, which is a sign that people are really getting into writing material again, which is always good. Overall, a ncie way to end the 2009 for OCW. But tonight marks a new era in OCW, a big change has taken place, and I'm proud to be leading this change into 2010. Finally, if this show wasn't enough of a sign, I AM 100% active, you WILL be seeing a lot more of me in the future, so sit down, shut up, and stay tuned. You don't deserve it.
Smythe D. Wonder Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 It's great to see Ryder has become pro OCW now that he is champion... but this just solidifies the fact that the OCW world title has fallen from grace to the lowest possible point... I'm sure because you think you and Leon had a great match you think you deserve to e champion... but let's dig here... you submitted ZERO rp's for this PPV... your character has been pretty much extinct over the past while... you won the title on a fucking roll up and you think you somehow deserve to be the top title holder in this place... All signs that you are NOWHERE near capable of being OCW champion... Your last title reign went awful and this one is off to quite the shitty start... the video RP was a huge WTF moment... and at this point I'd rather see Leon or Valmont walk with the title... both guys that put in an effort at the PPV without being rewarded a title shot... we all thought Valmont was an undeserving champion... and he won the FI then he RP'ed week in and week out... ran an FI angle with Amart before winning the title... YOU DID NOTHING!!! don't try to justify this newest OCW attrocity... cause you can't... just try not to be a shitty champion and prove us all wrong please and thank you... the Air Leon situation does scream JBL HBK... I wonder why Leon loves to steal from the WWE so much??? but it's great to see the Air back... show was half decent... commentary not so much... matches were great... perhaps one of the best shows matchwise we've had in a while... congrats to the new champions... Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Leon Valentine Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 You all bitch and moan at Ryder but truth be told what has anyone else really done? Ryder got an opportunity just like Trips got at the beginning of the year when he only just came back after three/two months. Only difference this time is Ryder stepped up and beat me.
Chris Ryder Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 It's great to see Ryder has become pro OCW now that he is champion... but this just solidifies the fact that the OCW world title has fallen from grace to the lowest possible point... I'm sure because you think you and Leon had a great match you think you deserve to e champion... but let's dig here... you submitted ZERO rp's for this PPV... your character has been pretty much extinct over the past while... you won the title on a fucking roll up and you think you somehow deserve to be the top title holder in this place... All signs that you are NOWHERE near capable of being OCW champion... Your last title reign went awful and this one is off to quite the shitty start... the video RP was a huge WTF moment... and at this point I'd rather see Leon or Valmont walk with the title... both guys that put in an effort at the PPV without being rewarded a title shot... we all thought Valmont was an undeserving champion... and he won the FI then he RP'ed week in and week out... ran an FI angle with Amart before winning the title... YOU DID NOTHING!!! don't try to justify this newest OCW attrocity... cause you can't... just try not to be a shitty champion and prove us all wrong please and thank you... the Air Leon situation does scream JBL HBK... I wonder why Leon loves to steal from the WWE so much??? but it's great to see the Air back... show was half decent... commentary not so much... matches were great... perhaps one of the best shows matchwise we've had in a while... congrats to the new champions... You know, I'm starting to think you just don't like me Smythe. You constantly claim I'm inactive, when I was working with Poe for the past month before I was given the shot at Leonheart, our plans were scrapped completely, because Poe became inactive himself. You'd have known about this, if you'd have watched the shows. So just SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY about me doing jack shit. I'm getting sick of it, because it isn't true. Also about the roll-up, there was nothing wrong with it, so you shouldn't be moaning about it. I'd hit my finisher before-hand, only to have Leon kick out of it, if Leon had pinned me off of a Signature move or even his noterhern-lights suplex, it would've been a fair win. Funny thing is, I doubt you would've moaned half as much if he'd done the same thing. Wanna' try undeserving Champions? How about you? You lost a no.1 contenders match for the title you're holding right now, so you can stop with that bullshit. And how the fuck can I be off to a shitty start? YOU HAVEN'T EVEN LET ME DO ANYTHING YET! Point is Smythe, you're a hypocrite, so get off your high horse and stop whining.
The Air Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 the Air Leon situation does scream JBL HBK... I wonder why Leon loves to steal from the WWE so much??? but it's great to see the Air back... It wasn't Leon's idea, so I blatantly stole from the WWE this time, but don't worry I'll give it my own swirl. 2k8? I havent figured out 2k7 yet - Big Joe D I am the First Dutch EX-Champion - The Air I am the First European EX-Champion - The Air I am the First True EX-Champion - The Air Delusional? Not at all! I Speak the Truth, cause I can proof it and the others can't. Those Heavy !@#$%^&& ain't got none on me.
Smythe D. Wonder Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Lol... You think cause you started a feud with Poe your a deserving OCW champion??? And a hypocrite... Really!!! I actually never said I deserved an NA title shot... But I think since the title has great prestige... There's nowone better to hold it... Winning the OCW title on a rollup is embarrasing Ryder... First off the rules clearly state that PPV and Main Event matches must end in sig or a finisher... Only exception is a dramatic ending... A roll up clearly doesn't fall into that category... The lowest point in OCW title hitory first was when Leon casketed Nate to win the title without hitting a finisher all match... Which was trumped by Valmont hitting a running move on Trips and Pinning KD angelo without hitting a finisher... But think you set a new low by pinning on a roll up to win the OCW world title.... And your trying to justify it is making it much worse!!! But I guess what's done is done... And that's why this place isn't what it used to be... But at least be a good champion Ryder... Your off to a fucking awful start by not winning the title in a respectful manor!!! But I challenge you to be the champion I'm going to be... Cause I'm going to be great!!! Signature 1 - The Alpha Heel Signature 2 - Spear 5 (F) - Stargazer Finisher 1 - Flapjack 2 (F) - The SDW Finisher 2 - Reality check (G) - Dawonderful Dream Finisher 3 (i'm cool enoigh to claim 3 moves) - The Darkside - THe Million Dollar Dream
Jacob Trance Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Lol... You think cause you started a feud with Poe your a deserving OCW champion??? And a hypocrite... Really!!! I actually never said I deserved an NA title shot... But I think since the title has great prestige... There's nowone better to hold it... Winning the OCW title on a rollup is embarrasing Ryder... First off the rules clearly state that PPV and Main Event matches must end in sig or a finisher... Only exception is a dramatic ending... A roll up clearly doesn't fall into that category... The lowest point in OCW title hitory first was when Leon casketed Nate to win the title without hitting a finisher all match... Which was trumped by Valmont hitting a running move on Trips and Pinning KD angelo without hitting a finisher... But think you set a new low by pinning on a roll up to win the OCW world title.... And your trying to justify it is making it much worse!!! But I guess what's done is done... And that's why this place isn't what it used to be... But at least be a good champion Ryder... Your off to a fucking awful start by not winning the title in a respectful manor!!! But I challenge you to be the champion I'm going to be... Cause I'm going to be great!!! I see you reposted, and removed the part about the main event thread, as I blatantly suggested Ryder. :)
Nathan Gaines Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Here's my take. Ryder coming out and challenging Leon as a face was one of those moments were you got the feel that a little guy was gonna give Leon a fight and then get beaten just at the end. Was the match good? Yeah it was an entertaining match to watch, but when you won it just left a WTF taste in my mouth. It doesn't have anything to do with you as a person, but honestly I don't really feel that it was justified. You don't really RP, your fued with Poe failed miserably(and I know that wasn't your fault at all) You just turned face and to be honest you haven't really done much in my opinion to get over enough as a face. In general I feel like if Leon was looking for someone more worthy of a out of the blue title shot he should have gone with someone who has been here and active. I know he couldn't have gone with someone like Smythe or Valmont since they wrestled, but they're in the Main Event level more so than Ryder. Ryder deserving the title because he wrestled a great match with Leon doesn't really justify you being champion. Yes you won so you earned the belt but in my opinion you still didn't deserve it. Hopefully you can hold it for a while and restore prestige to it, but who knows. As others have said it's a sad day because in my view the title really has fallen. We used to have great fueds with Nate and Majin and Kage and Guy and Versus where the title was seen as a prize gem. You had guys doing perfect circles and kept the title over months and made it seem like you had to work. As the storylines in general had a captivating appeal to them to the point where you were pulling one way or another for a guy cause they told a great story. I'm not going to judge your title reign based on how you won it, but I sure hope you have something great instore, and it has nothing to do with proving people wrong, it has everything to do with restoring a belt prestige that I once looked at as the greatest title in wrestling inside and outside of E-Fedding LocoNY911: I hate you with every fiber of my being just looking at your name makes me want to strike my monitor
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